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Posted 9/10/2017 8:16:50 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here for the benefit anyone that might be
able to use this information in planning and/or building a Bat
Vehicle.
Worked on cutting pieces for upper U-bar double shock mounting.
I decided to post the steps of making a custom mount for anyone that may not be familiar with this method.
So,
Step Two: Cut out parts.: In this case I cut the pieces from 1/2" plate steel with an oxygen/acetylene torch.
Note: To effectively cut straight lines I clamp a straight edge. Usually a 3/4" square piece of bar stock.
Note: The torch tip does not touch the metal being cut but rather is held approximately 1/4" above the metal being cut while guided against the straight edge.

The three reasons Oxygen/Acetylene torch out fits are still used is portability, reliability, and cutting ability.
No electricity required. I have used the rig seen in the photo image in some pretty remote locations to cut and gas-weld repair damaged off road vehicles.

Step three: Drilled shock mounting holes and bolted them together.
Step four: Used hand grinder to shape and contour the laminated metal pieces.
Step five: I will weld the pieces of the mount together.
Step six: I will then weld the finished mount to the U-bar. vertigo


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Post #159413
Posted 9/13/2017 6:51:58 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it might be of some use to
someone planning to build or actually building a Bat Vehicle.

SELF-EVALUATION INVENTORY

What Tool Using Skills / Available Options do you have available for a
Bat Vehicle Build?

I have listed many tools below that may be useful to a Bat Vehicle
Planner and/or Builder.

The best way to think about tool using skills is to think about them
as currently available problem solving options. The more tool using
skills you acquire the more Bat Vehicle problems solving options you
have.

Tool using skills are also about practice (improved ability through
practice) and the degree of tool using sophistication. How much
experience you have using a particular tool and how effective you are
is using the tool to solve build problems.

How many can you use?
Are there any you need to get familiar with or become master of?

Check yourself against the tool inventory listed below, circle/mark,
and decide if you are FAMILIAR, GENERAL USER, or MASTER of the tool’s
potential for solving Bat Vehicle building problems.

MEASURING and DRAWING TOOLS
English Rulers
Metric Rulers
Scaling Conversion Rulers
Protractor
Inclinometer
Square
Triangles
Compass
Pantograph
Enlarging/Reducing grid squares
Enlarging Projectors
Paint or other similar photo programs that come with most computers
PhotoShop
CAD Computer Aided Drafting
Mechanical and Laser Probes
Template Concepts
Tracing
Scaling up and down

HAMMERS
Claw
Ball Pein
3 LB Masonry
5 LB Sledge
10 LB Sledge
Dead Blow
Chipping

BASIC TOOLS
Hand Held Screw Drivers
Battery Powered Drill/Driver
Socket Sets
Wrenches-open/boxed
Crescent Wrench
Pipe Wrench
Allen-Hex-Torx-Star wrenches and Drill/Driver Bits
Nut Drivers
Pliers
Vice Grips
Channel Locks
Lock Ring Pliers
Safety Wire Pliers
Cutting Diagonal Pliers

CUTTING TOOLS
Exacto Knives
Utility Knife
Files
Rasps
Wood Cutting Hand Saw
Metal Cutting Hack Saw
Coping Hand Saw
Wood Chisel
Metal Cutting Chisel
Air Hammer with Chisel
Motor Driven Bench Jig Saw
Hand Held Motor Driven Jig/Sabre Saw
Reciprocating Saw
Wood/Metal cutting Band Saw
Horizontal Metal Cutting Bandsaw
Metal Cutting Chop Saw
Metal Cutting Motor Driven Hand Held Circular Saw
Wood Cutting Compound Miter Saw
Hand Held Motor Driven Router
Bench or Free Standing Router/Shaper
Metal Cutting Milling Machine
Wood Cutting Lathe
Metal Cutting Lathe
Oxygen/Acetylene Cutting Torch
Plasma Cutting Torch
CNC Plasma Cutting Table (can also use other tools)
CAM Computer Aided Machining

WELDING
Oxygen/Acetylene Gas Welding Outfit
Arc Stick Welder
MIG Welder
TIG Welder
Spot Welder
Plastic Welder

DRILLING, TAPPING and DIE CUTTING TOOLS
Hand Powered Drill
Powered Hand Drill
Drill Press
Threading Taps
Threading Dies

GRINDING / SANDING TOOLS
Hand Held Power Driven Angle 4-5 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Angle 6-9 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Straight Line 3-5 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Die Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Dremel Tool Grinders/Cutters
Bench / Pedestal Motor Driven 6-12 inch Grinders
Metal Cutting Surface Grinder
Hand Held Power Driven Rotational Disk Sanders
Hand Held Power Driven Orbital Disk Sanders
Hand Held Power Driven Belt Sanders
Bench / Pedestal Motor Driven Sanders
Bench Mounted Motor Driven Band Knife Grinder/Sander

AIR TOOLS
Air Hammer
Drill
Sander
Grinder
Paint Spray Guns
Sand/Abrasive Blasters

OK. What tools did I miss?
Post #159429
Posted 9/15/2017 2:24:14 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here for anyone that may be able to benefit from it planning to and/or physically building a Bat Vehicle.
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"I had given up on the idea of milling foam parts from huge blocks of foam because it was too cost prohibitive. But after spidey4fun's post about a guy that was milling car parts from regular foam insulation I started rethinking that idea. Smaller blocks of foam could be milled separately and then assembled together! It doesn't have to be milled out of one huge block with a giant machine.
However, even small CNC machines are expensive. But there are some nice kits out there. I'm seriously considering this one. https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/cnc-machine-blacktoe-v4-2x4."

Looked at the kit. Very nice for 4,000.oo Have you searched for used machines? Like, Torchmate, Routermate, etc. When I was researching them out I found 2 x 2 and 2 x 4 used Torchmate complete with computer on EBay for 5 and 7,000.00. Biggest problem with all these, and the kits too, is Z axis cutting depth. It usually falls just short of 6 inches. Once I get started on the physical building of my DOJ Batmobile I have plans to convert my 4 x 4 Torchmate by elevating it 2 feet above the bottom cabinet and switching out the automatic Z axis depth height control for a deep cutting Z axis some where in the range of 18-24 inches. Complete CNC foam cutting router tables are also sold online with a deep Z axis already installed. vertigo

Post #159444
Posted 9/17/2017 6:35:05 PM
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Proxy Shocks,

Built this pair of proxy shocks to stand in for the real shocks until
my Tumbler is mostly finished. Otherwise, given the non-predictability
of the finished vehicle weight, it would be impossible to get the rear
coil over shocks right.

Cut the two main lengths from a piece of old oil field drill stem I
had laying around and the four end disks from scrap 3/8” steel plate.
After rough welding these to the ends of the main lengths I welded on
some eye bolts. Then I painted them since I will be looking at them
for quite some time while I complete the vehicle.

I have placed a copy of this post here because the concept of using
proxy shocks to stand in for the actual shocks is applicable to any
Bat Vehicle build that uses shocks and this information may be useful
to someone planning to or actually building a Bat Vehicle.


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Posted 9/18/2017 5:51:16 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it might be of some benefit
to someone planning, starting, or currently building a Bat Vehicle.

Bat Vehicle Mechanical Problem Solving
The connections between theory and reality
Part One

Those who decide to build a Bat Vehicle will probably face a few major
problem solving challenges such as construction of the Tumblers front
arms and dually rear tires, but mostly a multitude of small problems
will present and have to be overcome.

The solutions to these problems will be found by using Mechanical
Reasoning, a combination of mental simulation and rule-based
approaches.

For mechanical reasoning, the representational material and the
referent is fundamentally spatial due to the science of motion. Motion
is a spatial property. Mechanical reasoning is determined by visual
spatial information such as relational connectivity, shape, and
location of objects.

Mechanical reasoning is often complemented by the conscious occurrence
of an evolving internal mental image set (simulation) of the physical
and relational circumstances.

“In the rule-based approach a sentential or propositional explanatory
representation is a set of facts or universal rules about the
representational material and referent (Hegarty, 2004).”

“While it is commonly accompanied by imagery, mechanical reasoning is
not a process of examining a general visual image in the ‘mind’s eye’.
Instead, mental simulations are structured fragments that include
depictions of non-visible properties and can be utilized in
concurrence with non-imagery practices, such as rule-based reasoning.
(Goldstein, 2011, p. 288).”

Post #159476
Posted 9/18/2017 5:52:39 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it might be of some benefit
to someone planning, starting, or currently building a Bat Vehicle.

Bat Vehicle Mechanical Problem Solving
Immersive Mechanical Problem Solving
A branch in the field of Immersive Learning

Part Two
Immersive Mechanical Problem Solving:

Once the Mechanical Problem can be described in a statement of the
problem, the individual or team of individuals attempting to solve the
problem is/are placed in a room with all the physical elements related
to the problem.

I used a similar method to solve the problems related to my design and
execution of constructing my Tumbler’s front arms and rear suspension.
When I started, I made an agreement with myself that I would spend an
hour a day building on my Tumbler and that if I wasn’t building
(Builder’s Block) that I would sit for that hour in the presence of my
Tumbler. This has worked well for me to solve my mechanical and
construction problems. When I sit in the presence of my incomplete
Tumbler build and the surrounding tools, parts, steel, and other
materials, I always find something inspiring in these that drive me
forward. I keep a little sign near my Tumbler that reads, “JUST DO
SOMETHING”   My motivation for building the Tumbler has never
faltered.  vertigo
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Posted Yesterday @ 6:57:25 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here for the benefit of anyone that might
be able to use this information in planning and/or building a Bat
Vehicle.

I received an email the other day stating, “I can’t weld and I have
never worked with metal. I have worked in the past a little with wood
in junior high shop class. How could I ever be able to build a
Tumbler?”  This is a good question that opens the door to the building
concept of TRANSLATION.

TRANSLATION

The conversion from one form or medium into another. The process of
moving, something from one place to another. In this case we are
talking about the movement of information.

If one builds a Bat Vehicle in wood they have stored a vast amount of
spatial and conceptual information in the wood parts. The wood parts
will contain the summaries of evolutionary eclectic mechanical problem
solving, relational connectivity, multi-dimensional shape boundaries,
and other representational information. (parts with three dimensional
measurements and their relationships with other three dimensional
parts.)

TRANSLATION occurs when we convert or copy the information held in the
wood parts to some other media such as metal, fiberglass, or other
material.

So, someone that builds a Bat Vehicle in wood, but who, has no skills
in metal or fiberglass can hire others that do, to do their
translations into metal or fiberglass.  vertigo
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