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Posted 8/2/2017 6:19:13 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it might be of some benefit
to someone planning, starting, or currently building a Bat Vehicle.

Shock Absorbers and Coil-Over Spring Calculations

There are many shock absorbers with coil-over spring plug in
calculators on line. The best I have found, so far, are related to the
Off-Road shock and spring guides.

One of the best is found at:

CRAWLpedia – The Off Road Encyclopedia
www.crawlpedia.com

Twelve Off-Road Shock Guides

Performance off-road racing shocks, like those available from King,
Fox, and Bilstein, are designed to be easily rebuilt and custom tuned.
Our Shock Valving Guide and Shock Tuning Guide explain how shock
valving works and how shims are used to adjust compression and rebound
damping.

Crawlpedia Shock Shootout:
A detailed review of every major brand of performance off-road shocks.

ORI STX Struts Guide:
A complete guide to ORI STX Struts including setup and tuning instructions.

Shock Measurement Guide:
How to properly measure for a new set of shocks, coil-overs, or struts.

Coil-over Install and Setup Guide:
This detailed guide covers how to install and setup a new set of coil-overs.

Coil-over Spring Rate Corrections:
If your coil-over spring rates are off, this guide will show you how
to fix them.

Performance Shock Valving Guide:
A thorough explanation of how shocks and their internal components work.

Performance Shock Tuning Guide:
Detailed instructions on how performance off-road racing shocks are tuned.

Shim Stack Valving Examples:
Seven sample compression and rebound shim stacks from light to firm.

Race Shock Rebuild Instructions:
How to service and rebuild King Off-Road Racing shock absorbers.

Coil-over Spring Rate Calculator:
Find the proper coil-over spring rates for your vehicle with this calculator.

Hydraulic Bump Stop Guide:
Everything you need to know about hydraulic bump stops and jounce shocks.

Shock Oil Volume Calculator:
Estimate the amount of shock oil you need to refill your performance shocks.
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Posted 8/14/2017 7:05:21 PM
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Now that we know and have proof that it existed, who out there is
going to step up and build the smallest Bat Vehicle?

Check out this two of a kind 1966 Batman Batcycle detachable go cart
independent powered vehicle.

We have all seen the 1966 Batcyle with sidecar for Robin but very few
remember that Robin’s side car could detach a mini go cart and drive
on its own.

A number of years back, one of the two Batcycle sidecar go carts that were built in
1966 by Richard “Korky” Korkes and Dan Dempski was sold at auction for
30,000.oo and today is estimated to be worth 100,000.oo.

The sidecar had a removable gas-powered go-kart that was deployed by
Robin. It was custom built and powered by a 55cc Yamaha engine. It had
motorcycle controls and a chrome moly steel frame.
Engine 55cc Yamaha
Carburetor Mikuni
Transmission Manual 3 speed
Ignition Electronic w/ push button start
Front wheels  5" Gar-Bro Wheel Co.
Rear wheels  5" Azusa
Tires Firestone Micro "500"  3.50-5
Brake  Airheart rear disc
Chassis construction Steel
Dimensions 55" x 25"



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Posted 8/24/2017 7:49:23 PM
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Vehicle.

How about adding an afterburner cold flame special effect?

Part One

Close to an audience, you might use a cold flame special effect with
just CO2 and a red, orange, or yellow filtered high intensity flood
light inside the afterburner. (Like the hand held search lights with
1,000,000 + candlepower.) The rushing exhaust of cold liquid CO2 as it
changes to a gas and "snow or white translucent and semi-reflective
dry ice solid particles" diffuses the light into a swirling jet of
motion. Deflection tabs can a mounted inside the exhaust nozzle to
refine the shape of the exhaust gas pattern.  Coupled with a recorded
jet exhaust sound effect and it appears very believable.

Best things about the cold flame special effects are no heat or burn
risk to audience, no fire hazard, and no residues left behind like
those from glitter and colored powder injectors.

Note: Touching a cold afterburner nozzle that may be below zero can
cause freeze burns.

Yes, I know you can get glitter and colored powder in bio-degradable
formulations but they can take quite a while to degrade.

vertigo



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Posted 8/24/2017 7:50:19 PM
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able to use this information in planning and/or building a Bat
Vehicle.

How about adding an afterburner cold flame special effect?

Part Two
Why CO2 is the go to gas/solid/liquid for cold flame special effects.

CO2 is normally a gas at room temperature and pressure. It has to be
stored under high pressure to make it a liquid. When you release the
pressure, the gas expands enormously and cools to make a huge white
jet that allows the carbon dioxide gas to expand, cool, and turn into
a mixture of frozen "snow or white translucent and semi-reflective dry
ice particles" and gas.

Basic Science Characteristics of Carbon Dioxide as a Liquid, Gas, or Solid.
Liquid CO2 is produced by compressing and cooling CO2 gas. This liquid
is a clear transparent fluid. Liquid CO2 cannot exist as a liquid at
atmospheric pressure. It must be pressurized above 60.4 psi to remain
as a liquid. At this pressure, Triple Point, CO2 can exist as liquid,
gas and solid. Below this pressure it will flash to a gas and solid.
More specifically, it behaves as a supercritical fluid above its
critical temperature (304.25 K, 31.10 °C, 87.98 °F) and critical
pressure (72.9 atm, 7.39 MPa, 1,071 psi), expanding to fill its
container like a gas but with a density like that of a liquid.
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Posted 8/26/2017 10:13:19 AM
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How about adding an afterburner cold flame special effect?

Part Three: Exhaust Nozzle Basics

I received at email asking for information on nozzle designs and how
to prevent freeze up.

The two major problems he referred to are related to allowing the CO2
to exit at high speed, so any snow that forms doesn't block it up and
how to best produce turbulence in the exhaust gas/snow mix.

For many years these were problems with the CO2 fire extinguishers
until they were finally resolved in 1975 by the Brooks Equipment
Company.

Given that their CO2 exhaust nozzle design has not been improved on,
this would appear to be the best place to start when designing a Bat
Vehicle afterburner exhaust cold flame special effect.

If I were building this effect I would start with an intact CO2 fire
extinguisher horn and surround it with three-six small high intensity
lights with a mix of orange, yellow, and red filters.

The mix of colored filters and gas turbulence would give the effect a
pulsing flicker flame effect. One could even set up a pulse flicker
control on the lights themselves. The sophistication and effectiveness
of the afterburner cold flame special effect is only limited by the
user’s imagination.

Carbon dioxide fire extinguishers

Artwork: A typical carbon dioxide fire extinguisher. From US Patent
3,901,322: Fire Extinguisher Discharge Horn by Jack Winston, Brooks
Equipment Co., Inc., August 26, 1975, courtesy of US Patent and
Trademark Office. Photo-image attached.

The CO2 fire extinguisher horn is designed very carefully to stop two
major potential problems: It allows the CO2 to exit at high speed, so
any snow that forms doesn't block it up, and creates uniform gas/snow
turbulence. This typical design from a patent by Brooks Equipment in
the 1970s solves both problems.


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Posted 9/3/2017 7:58:50 PM
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Worked on designing an upper U-bar double shock mounting bracket and created a wood pattern.
I decided to post the steps of making a custom mount for anyone that may not be familiar with this method.
So,
Step One: Design and make a life-size wooden pattern. vertigo


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Post #159357
Posted 9/5/2017 7:10:06 PM
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Vehicle.

Fedicane
“I am, however, having issues locating the proper rims and/or someone
who can make the rims i need for the rear. I want 16.5x12's but i can
work with 17x12's. Seems they are going to have to be custom as i have
yet to locate any of those sizes as duallies. Any tips or links would
help a lot.”

There are no dually factory made steel wheels for 16.5 X 12.
The original movie Tumbler used 16.5 x 12 shell wheels with welded in
dually centers and no wheel adapters.
gez1967 acquired some of the original tires mounted on custom dually rims.
In this case his photo images are worth many thousand woods.
Look at his build in Tumbler build section titled: UK Batman Tumbler builder
See his photo images of these at:
Post # 150055
7-27-2016  4:56:27 AM
In the past custom wheel companies have quoted these wheels between
1000-2000.00 each.
Judging from your building and welding skills I would imagine that you
could weld them up yourself.
PS: Your Tumbler build looks outstanding and your workmanship of
Post #159385
Posted 9/5/2017 7:22:34 PM
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bopenstein

“I've only just started building mine so can't help with the wheels
but if I see anything I'll let you know I was going full size but am
gonna reduce it by 10%. I'm in Australia so I'd never get it road
registered but I need to make it a bit smaller so I can tow it on a
trailer to shows.”

If you wanted to stay full size, you could, just make the few pieces
that stick out to far removable, and remove the two outer tires for
transport. That is how they transported the movie Tumblers on roads
with 8’-6” maximal width limits. With these pieces and tires removed
the full-size Tumbler is 8-feet wide. My Tumbler build is full-sized,
mostly movie correct, and to convert to street legal (8’-6”) will have
bolt on modified pieces, and a switch out narrowed modified R&R rear
that will use the full-size tires.

PS: Over the years others have studied the idea of building the
Tumbler at reduced scales, mostly trying to achieve a street legal
version, but all gave up on the idea due to cabin restrictions. A good
way to experiment with this idea is to explore it using a 12” (1/6th
scale) GI Joe. If you put the GI Joe in the driver’s seat of the 1/6
Tumbler you will discover just how tight the cabin really is at full
scale.    vertigo
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Posted 9/13/2017 6:48:55 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it might be of some use to
someone planning to build or actually building a Bat Vehicle.

SELF-EVALUATION INVENTORY

What Tool Using Skills / Available Options do you have available for a
Bat Vehicle Build?

I have listed many tools below that may be useful to a Bat Vehicle
Planner and/or Builder.

The best way to think about tool using skills is to think about them
as currently available problem solving options. The more tool using
skills you acquire the more Bat Vehicle problems solving options you
have.

Tool using skills are also about practice (improved ability through
practice) and the degree of tool using sophistication. How much
experience you have using a particular tool and how effective you are
is using the tool to solve build problems.

How many can you use?
Are there any you need to get familiar with or become master of?

Check yourself against the tool inventory listed below, circle/mark,
and decide if you are FAMILIAR, GENERAL USER, or MASTER of the tool’s
potential for solving Bat Vehicle building problems.

MEASURING and DRAWING TOOLS
English Rulers
Metric Rulers
Scaling Conversion Rulers
Protractor
Inclinometer
Square
Triangles
Compass
Pantograph
Enlarging/Reducing grid squares
Enlarging Projectors
Paint or other similar photo programs that come with most computers
PhotoShop
CAD Computer Aided Drafting
Mechanical and Laser Probes
Template Concepts
Tracing
Scaling up and down

HAMMERS
Claw
Ball Pein
3 LB Masonry
5 LB Sledge
10 LB Sledge
Dead Blow
Chipping

BASIC TOOLS
Hand Held Screw Drivers
Battery Powered Drill/Driver
Socket Sets
Wrenches-open/boxed
Crescent Wrench
Pipe Wrench
Allen-Hex-Torx-Star wrenches and Drill/Driver Bits
Nut Drivers
Pliers
Vice Grips
Channel Locks
Lock Ring Pliers
Safety Wire Pliers
Cutting Diagonal Pliers

CUTTING TOOLS
Exacto Knives
Utility Knife
Files
Rasps
Wood Cutting Hand Saw
Metal Cutting Hack Saw
Coping Hand Saw
Wood Chisel
Metal Cutting Chisel
Air Hammer with Chisel
Motor Driven Bench Jig Saw
Hand Held Motor Driven Jig/Sabre Saw
Reciprocating Saw
Wood/Metal cutting Band Saw
Horizontal Metal Cutting Bandsaw
Metal Cutting Chop Saw
Metal Cutting Motor Driven Hand Held Circular Saw
Wood Cutting Compound Miter Saw
Hand Held Motor Driven Router
Bench or Free Standing Router/Shaper
Metal Cutting Milling Machine
Wood Cutting Lathe
Metal Cutting Lathe
Oxygen/Acetylene Cutting Torch
Plasma Cutting Torch
CNC Plasma Cutting Table (can also use other tools)
CAM Computer Aided Machining

WELDING
Oxygen/Acetylene Gas Welding Outfit
Arc Stick Welder
MIG Welder
TIG Welder
Spot Welder
Plastic Welder

DRILLING, TAPPING and DIE CUTTING TOOLS
Hand Powered Drill
Powered Hand Drill
Drill Press
Threading Taps
Threading Dies

GRINDING / SANDING TOOLS
Hand Held Power Driven Angle 4-5 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Angle 6-9 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Straight Line 3-5 inch Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Die Grinders
Hand Held Power Driven Dremel Tool Grinders/Cutters
Bench / Pedestal Motor Driven 6-12 inch Grinders
Metal Cutting Surface Grinder
Hand Held Power Driven Rotational Disk Sanders
Hand Held Power Driven Orbital Disk Sanders
Hand Held Power Driven Belt Sanders
Bench / Pedestal Motor Driven Sanders
Bench Mounted Motor Driven Band Knife Grinder/Sander

AIR TOOLS
Air Hammer
Drill
Sander
Grinder
Paint Spray Guns
Sand/Abrasive Blasters

OK. What tools did I miss?
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Posted 9/14/2017 7:25:09 PM
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Here is an interesting resource for Batmobile information.

BATMAN WIKI

They claim to have 6,465 pages of information.

http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batmobile

The attached image gives me thoughts about how someone using the key
elements from the 1941 Batmobile could build an ultra-modernized
version with today’s lines and curve. By choosing the right donor
vehicle one could build a jaw dropping show stopper of this vehicle.
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