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Here are a few more photo-images that further demonstrate the conceptual value and usefulness.
I like to think of models and scale models in particular as 3D pictorial blueprints.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 8:35:37 AM |
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the 1/10 RC you're using is really close to 1/10 after taken measurements of the JL batmobile in person... I've said it before, the media released measurements are bloated.
thanks for the frame pics, I'll see what I can get together for you in drawings and a basic game-plan.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 10:01:49 AM |
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I did a little analysis of the do3d model last night. The total width of their car as their model is, would put it at a little over 12 feet. That is in line with the exaggerated measurements that were put out in the media before the first movie came out.
At a 12% reduction my car will come out at about 10 feet wide, even with the narrower tires. I think that's about actual size of the real car.
To achieve an 8.5 foot car, without any skewing, the reduction would need to be around 36%. That would give a main body length (wings and tire not included) of 11 feet and a 6.5 foot body width with the rest of the width taken up by the wheel assemblies. it would give an interior cabin width of about 4 feet. Probably doable, but very tight.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 12:51:32 PM |
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the seats they used are Sparco Chrono road, they are offer in two sizes. Medium width at widest shoulder wings is 20", and Large is 21".
Even with specing the Large seats at 21" width for Batfleck in the suit, the seats sit with about 5" separation at the shoulder widest point around center console... You'll notice the outside shoulder wings come right up against the edge of the cockpit. Giving the cockpit about a 47-48" opening width. So your right on the money with a 4' width. And if you space your side cage tubing bent out into the side wing area of the car it will give you another few inches arm room.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 1:13:54 PM |
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this dude is very average sized and here's how tight he is in it...
and Ben in the car... his shoulder width comes in about 20" for reference.
straight on shot between the seats... looks like the Real deal car specs out to about 7" between the seats. So possibly about 50-52" tops across the whole interior. If you are getting 48" in the scaled car you are doing great on cockpit space.
I only got to go over the JL version, so didn't have the benefit of the two seats in there, and the BigGun half of the cockpit had to remain closed, so I wasn't able to get that exact measurement, but going off everything else I spec'd you are right on the mark for sizing down sly.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 2:21:06 PM |
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"the 1/10 RC you're using is really close to 1/10 after taken measurements of the JL batmobile in person... I've said it before, the media released measurements are bloated."
How much do you think the media released measurements are bloated by? 15% ? 20% ?
The wheelbase on the RC 1/10 measures 15" Full scale would be 150" (12 feet - 6 inches)
One of the comic Con events that had a life size foam DOJ said the wheelbase was 175"
The Mobieus 1/25th and Hot Wheels elite 1/18th are both identical in real size and both have a 7" wheelbase.
That is 175" scaled up for the Mobieus and 126" scaled up for Hot Wheels Elite.
Sounds like Mattel's claim that their Hot Wheels Elite 1/18th DOJ Batmobile is the most accurate might have merit? Photo-images of both side by side attached.
Maybe a little more photo analysis using the known tire diameters as a measuring reference.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 3:16:32 PM |
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I do confirm I got about 175" for a wheelbase on the JL car... it was a bit under 15' hub to hub. And like I said earlier, about 11' outside edge to outside surface of the "fenders" was the widest point I could find anywhere on the car. 10' across the outside faces of the widest tires. I had to measure it solo, but did my best on everything around the car.
As you pointed out, each rendition seems to have fallacies, but the RC 1/10 when I measure in mm does seem like a decent reference point in scale to get us the right look on the road. Some things are off about 2-5% in various places, but I don't see much more than that for discrepancies.
it's pretty easy to just take a good overhead pic of whichever model you want to check, and overlay it on the art of book blueprint...
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| Posted 5/2/2019 4:23:30 PM |
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I sat down at the computer this evening and figured out exactly the do3d size compared to the real size based on the front tire specs viewable in pictures, 400/55/22.5. That converts to a 39.8 inch high tire. the do3d model tire is 51.6 inches. That means the do3d file is 20.548% too big. If I reduce it .795 I get pretty close to the real size. My reduction has been .88, which means my car is bigger that the real one by 8.5%.
I'm not very happy about that. Thinking about scrapping it all and starting over. 
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| Posted 5/2/2019 5:15:08 PM |
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| oh crap! their front tires are bigger than the rears... wish I was aware of the numbers in that file early on, sorry about that bud.
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| Posted 5/2/2019 8:31:31 PM |
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| Well, It might not be that bad. A smaller size can be produced faster and since I now know what to expect I think I can move pretty quickly. Plus, I can shoot for the street legal size.
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