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 Posted 4/18/2006 12:48:32 AM |
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| Posted 4/18/2006 1:38:09 AM |
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Hey Jack,
Haven't we all gone through this a million times????
Gary in Schaumburg, Illinois has one of the three original Ohrberg molds used to make the film cars. Those molds have all the flanges and vents and traction pads and extra flares on the front end under the turbine. You can see the very intricate hood connection flange in this photo of the original molds on the day Nye (Jay's kid) and I brought them to Moline.
All of the original cars, (Including the ones that went to Pinewood) were made from one of three, identical sets of these molds. The red set (pictured) the black set and the blue set.
The blue set and the black set were destroyed by WB. (The "black and blue" irony hits me as I type this) The red set was shipped to Moline to get them the hell out of Hollywood and away from WB. There is a rumour that an additional set of molds made it's way from Jay's to his friend in Australia. Only our Aussie friends can follow that trail.
But when I left Nye, he didn't have any ability to run anything out of them and stored all of this stuff in town at a place called Tempo Marine. About a year after I left there, I got a call from Gary who'd been passed on to me by Now Silent Bob.
Gary told me he'd purchased the 89 molds from Nye along with the molds for the 66 and a 66 body that had been cut in half lengthwise.
Jay had previously sold him an 89 turnkey with a flip top, fighter canopy roof and a turnkey 66. The "kid" sold him both molds and the 66 shell for 12K. He was looking into someone to complete the 66, but the purchase of the molds was simply to ensure the exclusivity of the 89 he'd bought from Jay. He had no intention to use them. The existing 66 body was a different matter.
About a year after that, Jay offered to sell Star Cars to me. He was opening Ohrberg Models and Talent (See "nod" to that company on the wall in Austin Powers 2) and wanted to get rid of all of his molds and extra cars.
The first thing we negotiated was the purchase of all of the molds and cars that were left behind at Tempo Marine.
These included the Polar Lights Batcycle molds and three cars from Death Race 2000, the Cobra 50 Merc, and the Ferrari LeSabretooth and Barney Rubble car from the Flintstones. But the 89 and 66 molds were no longer there.
Anyone need a giant Bugs Bunny head?
As Kevin has mentioned. Jay put up a lot of cars to Now Silent Bob for a crapload of cash. Much more that a few hundred grand I heard Kevin.
These included the Batmissile, the Miami Vice Scarab and trailer (now painted red) a set of 66 molds that Jay had pulled from a car that Bob had sold him. (Bob tells me one of the wings was lowered on purpose to make the car uneven because he knew Jay would pull a mold from it as soon as he got it. He showed me the difference with a tape measure on one visit, but I was more concerned with the rattlers nested under it than to worry about pics at the time.)
A Caddy that Jay's girlfriend had owned, the molds for the Knight 4000 and the 89 that started it all.
The grandfather of all 89 replicas.
When Now Silent Bob realized that he wasn't getting his cash back, he attempted to sell off Jay's stuff. The missile went to a club/restaurant in Tucson called "Tornado's". Can anyone help out with that?
And the 89 went to Star Cars. The finish work done by the same guy who's building Dan Rodriguez' car.
BUT!!!!!!!
NOT BEFORE, Now Silent Bob sent the molds down to Hemett to have a set of molds pulled from it. The very same molds that are in the above photos provied by others.
But... as I have stated time and time again. Dean's boys went cheap on the molds and simply splashed the car, taping over the grills and traction pads and abandoning the intricate flanges altogether.
THAT is why the replicas don't have all of the "goodies" on them.
Mine don't either. Because a guy in New York came to me with an offer to mold mine in exchange for a second body for Don C. and he f'ed it up. The only way to get all the f'ing gelcoat off my car was to finish the job he started and I ended up with a set of molds I never wanted in the first place.
But my molds were made without separating the two halves of the car and the car was never flipped over to get all the "cool" stuff molded underneith.
This guy poured the gelcoat all over it without a single connecting flange being glassed up. I had to use a whizzer wheel to cut through the glass and gel to insert aluminum flashing in the cracks to re-engineer the flanges that are on them now. Not my most impressive work.
But the molds were there, people have cash, so I ran out a few cars. Everyone seems to be happy with them (Eh Nitro?... Nate?)
But the molds in the U.K. were pulled from one of the two cars Jay shipped to Pinewood, Yancy's running cars like Jack's out of Now Silent Bob's old molds and the rest of them are being pulled from molds pulled off of NSB and Yancy cars.
Gary has never parted with, nor used the molds he has. And THOSE CARS would be the ones to have!
The Six Flags cars were made smaller because the turning radius of the 89 is too crappy for the small arenas provided by the Batman Stunt show. I mean C'mon! Look what they did to the Tumbler!!!!
Somewhere on down the road, someone (Rods and Racers maybe?) pulled a mold off the "shorty" cars and now we've got smaller 89's that won't fit on the chassis anymore.
*****The Batgospel... as handed down by...******
    
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He MAKES them you idiot!
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| Posted 4/18/2006 1:53:04 AM |
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Holy crap that is alot to follow.... 
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| Posted 4/18/2006 6:25:44 AM |
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And this is why I luv the the Batgod!  So, how do we bribe Gary for his molds?
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| Posted 4/18/2006 7:52:12 AM |
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Yipee-ki-yay...
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So that means that the shorter/modified bodies came from a Six Flags modification and NOT from some modified car in Returns, correct?
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| Posted 4/18/2006 10:44:12 AM |
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dun, dun, dun! *theatrical suspense sounds*
I don't have a batmobile, but I have a remote R2-D2
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| Posted 4/18/2006 11:03:37 AM |
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I have the power!
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That's some great info! Paul, you should write a book about the 89's history .
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| Posted 4/18/2006 11:48:05 AM |
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Yes, Paul. That is some great information. I always enjoy reading your posts, not only for the info and photos that they contain, but because you know how to write well. There is a lot to be said for proper spelling, grammar, capital letters, punctuation and paragraphs. Thanks for paying attention in English class! 
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| Posted 4/18/2006 12:39:43 PM |
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Thanks guys,
I was kind of in a hurry last night and I saw that I dropped some letters in a word here or there.
Actually, once I'm done with the show, I think I'm gonna turn my attention to writing a coffee table book about movie cars in general.
I can get past the licensing issue because I have enough cool pics of the cars that were my personal property at one time or another, so the book becomes "So cars that some guy has" and not a licensing nightmare.
But... the book will actually tell the TRUTH about who built what and who says they built it publicly. And what went where and what car is real and what "original" car is actually in someone's garage and not on display where they claim it to be.
Would be an interesting read even for people who aren't THAT into movie cars.
But I've got to be "out-out" of the game before I do that. Because it would create a lot of heat in the industry.
Car museums send me pics of cars to confirm it's authenticity. When I tell them where it came from and it's history, they always say "How can you be so sure?"
And I tell them where to look, what to unscrew that has my business card in it, where I've autographed the car under the dash or something... or even something as simple as...
"Look under the "C" button on the dash and tell me what you see?"
"My name on the button below".
I think THAT would be a cool book. Don't you?
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!
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| Posted 4/18/2006 12:43:19 PM |
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Yeah, I agree. Good read. Interesting to know the "tale" of the molds and photos too. The photos are great to document the facts as you know them.
So THAT's where N8 got his! lol
Good man!
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