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 Posted 3/26/2022 11:06:15 AM |
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Ok... so the preliminary planning/work begins for my electric motor powered Batpod. For those who don't know me I've build an 89 bat in the past ( https://batberry.wordpress.com ) and I'm hoping to finish my Nemesis project ( https://www.instagram.com/nemesisr1/ ) sometime this summer, so I'll be needing something else to work on!
Step one was to get my hands on a HotToys Dark Knight Rises 1/6 model. This thing is wonderful and will provide a great reference. It does appear that there are some slight differences between Rises and the Dark Knight photos I've seen out there. Looks like the Rises bike has two brake cylinders.
We will be using a super accurate 3D laser scanner to be able to do a full 3D scan of this model. Getting as much detail into the computer as possible.
We'll then measure my actual tire diameter compared to the model and will then scale the model up based on that difference between the real world and the model. In "theory" it should be 1/6 scale but you never know. So using the tires as references will be the best bet to make it look just like the model.
From there we'll be reverse engineering all of the parts, frame, etc to get the measurements we want. We'll be 3D printing the guns, fairing, tank cover etc. in Nylon via SLS prints in large scale printers. Much easier to print a finished product than doing the whole plug/mold/final part shenanigans. 
These are the tires and wheels that I've ordered:
[EDIT]: Just like that I changed my wheels. Reading spidey's build and the 4" backspacing wasn't going to be enough, so I got the 7" backspacing on the new order
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It will be a while until they come in, but that's ok. Lots of planning and work to be done in parallel. I also picked up a set of fogs that look like the ones on the tumbler and Batpod. Stay tuned for other updates 
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| Posted 3/26/2022 11:15:55 AM |
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Glad you are back with another project. Been basing my Keaton build on yours, so far been gathering parts.
Always had a soft spot for the Batpod, too bad it doesnt seem to be practical with its tires/steering system.
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| Posted 3/26/2022 12:00:34 PM |
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Hey Tim, glad to see a new project from you! 
I'm sure it will be awesome as always 
Best
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| Posted 3/26/2022 1:57:51 PM |
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Supreme Being
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Thanks guys! 
Looking for this to be just a fun low speed cruiser.. some events etc. So I'm good with it not being practical LOL
I would imagine 15 minutes into riding it your neck will feel horrible.
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| Posted 3/27/2022 12:57:52 AM |
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| Posted 3/27/2022 4:23:15 PM |
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Looking at this guy for the motor. Integrated disk brake from QSMOTOR:
4000W Car Motor
Application: electric Car, Tricycle, Scooter, Motorcycle, etc.
Advantage of 4000W Car Motor
1) High Power: 4000W (continuous) and max. up to 8000W (8KW).
2) High Efficiency: max. 85% to 91%. Save your battery power and energy.
3) Run more distance per charge, long battery life.
4) Support voltage from DC 72V to 120V.
5) Low temperature rise, low failure rate.
6) Resistant to high current, shock resistance.
7) Actual rated power (continuous), no cheating in power.
8) 2 sets of Hall Sensor, 1 for use and 1 for backup.
9) Customize PCB size and mount studs (5pcs or 4pcs).
10) Recommendation Hub/Rim: 14inch, 15inch, 16inch, 17inch.
Specification
4000W Car Motor, 4000W 40H 273 V3 Car Motor
1) Type: 273 DC Brushless Motor
2) Version: V3
3) Power (Continuous Power): 4000W (peak 8000W).
4) Voltage Range: DC 72V (option 72V-120V)
5) Magnet Height: 40mm
6) Recommendation Hub/Rim: 14 inch or above
7) Rim Mount Screw: 5 mount screws (option 4 mount screws)
8) PCD: 100mm to 117mm (customizable).
9) CB: 60mm to 80mm (customizable).
10) Speed: 30 – 90km/h
11) Torque: 30 – 197.9N.m
12) Brake: disc brake (220mm)
13) Hall Sensor: 2 sets (1 for use and 1 for backup)
14) Max. Working Termperature: 70 ℃ (peak 120℃ in 5 – 10 second)
15) Waterproof Grade: IP54
16) Net Weight: 21.50kgs
17) Unit Packing Size: 43x43x43cm/carton
Advice on Motor Speed
1) The max. speed of 4000W car motor ranges from 30km/h to 90km/h.
2) The recommend max. speed is 70km/h at 72V. The repair rate is the lowest at this speed configuration.
3) The speed of motor will go up when the battery voltage increases.
4) It’s better to advise your battery voltage and expected speed. Then we can recommend the correct speed version of motor to you.
5) This 4000W car motor is the perfect solution for small electric car converting.
Motor Speed Version
1) Torque Version, 3T, WP40030, 1000rpm at 72V.
2) Balance Version, 3T-, WP40031, 1200rpm at 72V.
3) Fast Version, 2T+, WP40029, 1400rpm at 72V.
This 4000W Car Motor can run at voltage 48V-96V (max. 120V), the recommend voltage is 72V. The rotating speed increases proportionally with the increase of voltage.
Advice on PCD and CB
1) PCD ranges from 100mm to 117mm.
2) CB ranges from 60mm to 80mm
3) Rim mount studs can be 5pcs or 4pcs.
Please advise the PCD and CB sizes of your rim if you know it.
Advice on Motor Controller
1) You should choose 150-200A (power current limited) controller for this 4000W car motor.
2) This 4000W car motor can support both Trapezoidal Type and Sinusoidal Type controllers.
3) The recommended controller are VOTOL Controller EM-150, LB Controller 72502, Sabvoton Controller 72150 and other brands.
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http://batberry.wordpress.com/
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| Posted 3/28/2022 1:04:02 AM |
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You reap what you sow
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Nice. New build from Tim.
 
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| Posted 3/28/2022 4:58:48 AM |
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Cool. My second build is on hold while I'm doing other stuff. Looking forward to seeing how your build goes.
Only has one one rear brake cylinder. Hot toys messed that up.
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| Posted 3/28/2022 5:09:09 AM |
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Supreme Being
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spidey4fun (3/28/2022)
Cool. My second build is on hold while I'm doing other stuff. Looking forward to seeing how your build goes.
Only has one one rear brake cylinder. Hot toys messed that up.
Gotcha... Ya, every photo that I found has one brake cylinder so I was wondering what was the deal there. Thought maybe they plumbed master/slave for front back on the Rises pod controlled by your foot. But then I thought that would be stupid as you only have your foot back there when riding, so there would be no way to apply a brake if the bike started rolling on you at a standstill.
So front brake is just a normal motorcycle master cylinder/reservoir on the left handle lever 
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| Posted 3/29/2022 4:45:06 PM |
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Yep. That's what I did. My rear brake calliper had two inputs for brakes hoses. Something to do with ABS. So I connected a other handle bar brake lever up to it. So I had foot brake to rear and hand brake to both front and rear. Also had regen braking connected to switch for the brake lights on the brake levers.
What batteries are you planning on using?
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