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 Posted 1/24/2018 5:09:19 PM |
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I placed a copy of this post here for the possible benefit to anyone
planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
PART TWO
Determine the fair price for what you are looking for.
Use your parameters sheet and go to the internet and type in what you
are looking for. This will take you to various sites such as
autoguru.com, autotrader.com, and many others. Many of these allow you
to type in your zip code and the radius of miles you want to search.
When you find a listing that meets your parameters criteria save it in
a file with the related prices. From these you will soon develop the
market price range (low and high).
Buy intact running and drivable potential donor vehicles of the best
quality you can afford. This will give you a proven and functional
intact drive train.
For those looking for a donor vehicles as a source for frames/parts
there are auction sites like erepairables.com and many others. I like
erepairables the best.
Most of these are sold with salvage or certificate titles.
These are often classified by flood or crash damage.
Either way it means the insurance companies have declared them total
losses. To put them back on the road means after you repair them you
will have to apply for a new title if you want to put them back on the
road again.
The best vehicles are the flood damaged. (low chance of a bent frame,
and the suspension, steering, rear end, front end are all usually
intact) These usually have water soaked interiors and water caused
electrical problems.
At erepairables.com for a flood damaged vehicle you can expect to pay
around 25% of the value of a similar used running vehicle on the lot.
You can also use proxy automatic bidding.
Also, it is zip code and radius miles searchable.
erepairables.com
WORTH GOING TO IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO PAY 25% for a donor vehicle that
is very useable and intact.
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| Posted 1/25/2018 5:07:09 PM |
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I placed a copy of this post here for the possible benefit to anyone
planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
SLY
“Hey, I am getting pretty excited about my work with the DOJ 3d files.
As you may know, the plan is to mill this in foam, make a mother mold,
and produce the body parts. My timeline might come pretty close to
yours.”
“If I can produce the body panels it would be interesting to see if
they would fit on your donor.”
There is no donor vehicle that I found that would allow the mounting
of body panels without significant modifications for the DOJ/Justice
League Batmobile. However, there is one example of deductive building
logic that you have available to you, that I and others don’t have.
That is your physical proxy build.
RULE APPLIED DEDUCTIVE LOGIC: Any donor vehicle, frame, power train,
front suspension, rear suspension, etc. that will fit inside your
proxy vehicle has the potential suitability to support the mounting of
your body panels. You will also have several alignment points to
choose from that will match up to a donor vehicle’s existing
mechanical structures. The donor vehicle in this build chosen is about
compromise and value judgements. I have found no donor vehicle that is
a perfect match but have decided on my donor based on my building
techniques and matching of mechanical and structural elements within
the boundaries of the DOJ/Justice league Batmobile.
I have estimated that finding the right donor is worth 30-40% of build
completion. An excellent example of this is paul wayne’s donor
selection for his tumbler build that probably exceeds 70% or more of
the total build contribution. A closer aligned example to the DOJ is
the one built in Ecuador.
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| Posted 1/25/2018 6:45:30 PM |
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Supreme Being
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There is no donor vehicle that I found that would allow the mounting
of body panels without significant modifications for the DOJ/Justice
League Batmobile. However, there is one example of deductive building
logic that you have available to you, that I and others don’t have.
That is your physical proxy build.
You are exactly right! That's why I have chosen to scratch build the frame and chassis. Like you, I did a lot of research on possible donor vehicles and, as you know, actually purchased a rolling chassis. I do think it would be possible to use a donor. You certainly solve the headache of sourcing all the parts that go into a car because you have them on your donor. Converting the frame will take some compromises. That's one big reason I decided to do a scratch frame and chassis build. We'll see what I do about the rest.
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| Posted 1/27/2018 6:31:45 PM |
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PROJECTION REPORT: Vertigo’s DOJ/Justice League Batmobile
Vertigo’s DOJ/Justice League Batmobile Update: Projected close range work for next
two months. (For me that will be around 60-hours, maybe more.)
Remove parts from donor vehicle that are not needed.
vertigo
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| Posted 1/30/2018 7:02:20 PM |
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Placed a copy of this post here for possible benefit to anyone
planning to, and/or, actually building a Bat Vehicle.
The Ultimate Arkham Batmobile built from a stripped down Lamborghini
donor vehicle.
Built for Saudi Arabia’s Team Gulag to drive in Gumball 3000
Swedish car maker Caresto created this genuine Batmobile, based on
blueprints from the ‘Arkham Knight’ video game. The 560hp V10 engine
sits encased in a full carbon-fiber chassis on top of four 26-inch
wheels, with a 3.4-metre wheelbase. Cost: Somewhere between 1.5 and 2
million dollars.
The attached photo-images contain a lot of information and are
quite revealing.
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| Posted 1/31/2018 6:00:25 PM |
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I placed a copy of this post here for the possible benefit to anyone
planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
Donor Vehicle Preparation
PART ONE
This will depend on how much of the donor vehicle will be used.
If you are just after the frame or a rolling chassis then you can just
record on a piece of paper the make, model, year, and other relevant
information that would be needed to be able to order parts.
Remove the battery, drain the fuel tank, and remove the tank.
A drained fuel tank is still dangerous due to fuel vapors and can burn
and/or explode from any source of heat such as gas cutting torches and
stray sparks from electrical shorts, grinders, saws, drills, and even
from metal on metal friction sparks.
Gasoline has a flash point of -50 degrees Fahrenheit
Flash point of a flammable liquid is defined as the lowest temperature
at which it can form an ignitable mixture in air.
Gasoline has an ignition/fire point of 495 degrees Fahrenheit
Ignition/Fire point, which is a slightly higher temperature, is the
temperature at which vapors of the flammable liquid continue to burn
after being ignited even after the source of ignition is removed.
Remove unneeded body parts from the donor vehicle. This will likely
include all doors, body panels, hood, interior, dashboard, seats, etc.
Try to recover parts in good condition as these can be sold.
Place the donor vehicle chassis on good quality, strong, jack stands.
Clean and prepare the bare chassis, particularly, if you intend to
take the vehicle to car shows. Remove dirt and grime completely before
spraying with an undercoating.
Next, update and/or replace worn suspension parts.
That’s it. You are now ready to build your Bat Vehicle.
Part Two will cover preparing a donor vehicle for significant
integration into a Bat vehicle. The donor vehicle will most likely
contribute 30-40%, or more, to these Bat Vehicle builds. vertigo
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| Posted 2/1/2018 5:24:38 PM |
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I placed a copy of this post here for the possible benefit to anyone
planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
Donor Vehicle Preparation
Part Two
Preparing a donor vehicle that will be significantly integrated, into
a Bat vehicle. The donor vehicle will most likely contribute 30-40%,
or more, to these Bat Vehicle builds.
Set up a log book for your donor vehicle.
Record all identify information such as make model, year, VIN Number,
and title information at the front of the book. Since most of these
types of donor vehicles will be bought intact from individuals and
used car dealers many of them will have the original owner’s manuals
that came with when they were bought new.
Set up and label a plastic box, big enough, to keep all this
information together.
Set up a section of around 20-pages at the back of your log book and
title it MEASUREMENTS and KEY INFORMATION.
Measure and gather key information such as wheelbase, rear axle width
with wheels, front axle width with wheels, tire sizes, assembled
dually tires total width, height from ground to top of hood and any
other information you believe to relevant. Continue to add other
information as it becomes available such as front axle width without
tires, rear axle width without tires, lug nut sizes, and replacement
brake pads part numbers.
Other sections should be set up in the log book as needed to organize
your information.
Usually these log book sections will be set up by divisions such as
engine/transmission, suspension, body, interior, front end, rear end,
POL (petroleum, oils, and liquids) or other divisions that the user of
the donor feels are relevant.
Remove the battery, drain the fuel tank, and remove the tank.
A drained fuel tank is still dangerous due to fuel vapors and can burn
and/or explode from any source of heat such as gas cutting torches and
stray sparks from electrical shorts, grinders, saws, drills, and even
from metal on metal friction sparks.
Gasoline has a flash point of -50 degrees Fahrenheit
Flash point of a flammable liquid is defined as the lowest temperature
at which it can form an ignitable mixture in air.
Gasoline has an ignition/fire point of 495 degrees Fahrenheit
Ignition/Fire point, which is a slightly higher temperature, is the
temperature at which vapors of the flammable liquid continue to burn
after being ignited even after the source of ignition is removed.
Remove only unneeded body parts from the donor vehicle that you are
absolutely certain will not be used. This may include doors, body
panels, hood, interior, dashboard, seats, etc. Try to recover parts in
good condition as these can be sold. Even so, something from these may
be needed after all. Usually these needs result from changes in build
vision and the discovery of better alternative solutions to build
problems. Save everything unless you are absolutely, positively,
certain that you will not need the part again. Then save them anyway
until your Bat Vehicle donor vehicle has completed its contribution.
SECURELY LABEL AND IDENTIFY ALL ELECTRICAL WIRES, TUBES, HOSES, and
CABLES. ADD INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DISCONNECTED FROM and
OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION.
This will take time but will save you hours from chasing down wires,
tubes, hoses, and cables.
Place the donor vehicle on good quality, strong, jack stands.
Remove the tires.
Next, update and/or replace worn suspension parts.
Inspect engine and transmission.
Everything else should be inspected as well.
Carefully, with attention to details, record inspection results,
problems, and projected maintenance/replacement parts.
That’s it. You are now ready to start integrating your donor into the
building your Bat Vehicle. vertigo
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| Posted 2/2/2018 6:08:53 PM |
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I placed a copy of this post here for the possible benefit to anyone
planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
Donor Vehicle Preparation
Part Three
Preparing a donor vehicle that will be significantly integrated, into
a Bat vehicle. The donor vehicle will most likely contribute 30-40% of these types of Bat Vehicles.
As such, you will need to purchase some maintenance and repair manuals for your embedded donor vehicles.
I bought the Haynes and Chilton's manuals for my DOJ/Justice League Batmobile donor today for 60.00 delivered.
Some may also want to purchase the related factory repair manuals as well.
Many of these can be found at Amazon and eBay for 25-100.oo. vertigo
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| Posted 2/5/2018 6:30:29 PM |
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Began the physical tear down of my donor vehicle and spent most of the next 16-hours on the process.
Proved to be more difficult to remove the heavy duty steel bed than I predicted.
The bed was 1/4 inch thick steel and fastened to the frame with welded 3/4 " thick steel plates.
Drained the fuel tank and purged the tank with continuous pressurized CO2.
Used a reciprocating saw with extreme cutting Diablo metal cutting blades to sever the plates through.
vertigo
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| Posted 2/6/2018 9:33:31 AM |
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Supreme Being
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Wow! That bed is a lot of steel. Will you be able to repurpose it?
When I had a donor frame I was considering leaving the motor on the end it's mounted to now, thus the front becomes the back and the back becomes the front. Then all you need is a V-Drive and you don't need to do much with the motor. But I only had a rolling frame so not really sure if that idea was practical. What do you think?
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