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Posted 9/23/2007 10:42:06 PM


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Freedom of speech is denied if one is deemed questionable
Freedom from heckling is denied if one is deemed questionable
Freedom from withdrawal is denied if one is deemed questionable.
Group bullying is encouraged, clusters of one group or several form to support
one another without merit to oppress singular individuals.



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Post #63531
Posted 9/23/2007 11:44:51 PM


Has NO LIFE!!

Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!Has NO LIFE!!


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Hey DonC., I was a little surprised by what seemed like a little matter turned into a full fledge war.  I was so concerned that I read through your entire build log to see where it all went wrong.

 There is a universal feeling that speech should be free but in reality there is no requirement to listen.  The heckling has come into play in the recent news and again it falls into the realm of freedom of speech.  How do you shut someone up when you don't want to hear their message.  And thirdly freedom of possession. Once we post a picture or text to the web we loses our exclusitvity.  It literally does not belong to us.  I wish it wasn't true but I sincerely believe it to be true.

In my life I have had negative messages sent to me through words or gestures and I've realized I can't stop it.  Because the freedom that give me the right of free speech also gives the hecker the right to free speech.  And by resticting what a person can say to me restricts everyones right to speech.  But I can refuse to listen.

As a way of dealing with this I've come to a Universal law that I cannot stop you from saying what you are going to say but I can contol how I will react to it.  This has helped me so much in understanding life, to essentially bulletproof myself from what people may say about me wether its true or a lie. To let what started out as a small request then rage into an all out war does not seem worthwhile.

I've talked to a couple of members and they have the highest regards for your skills and your contributions to CLTC.  But this is not a democracy.  People are in power and have the right to make certain decisions.  This essentially is not our site even if we have contributed or not.  We re invited to participate.

I wish there was a way to make this all go away and resume to normal because I enjoyed your build log.  But this will take the humble approach to realize maybe we were wrong or maybe we were percieved as wrong either way life is just so short for this.

Buddah said if a man were to hurtle insults at you and instead of accepting them you merely decided to reject them then the question becomes who do the insults belong to. My humble suggestions is in the future when people want to lash out at that person for hurting their feeling or insulting their integrity one may simple reject what that person has to say.  Our lives should not be bent on judging others, our job is to live in harmony.  And if you ever started your own website I would contribute but I would realize you are king

Finally I think CLTC is different from Gotham Garage because of one thing.  Last week it was made up of us and you.  That's what made it different.  We should ask orselves how would this website be if everyone was just like me. 

If we want the world to be more honest, we must be more honest. If we want the world to be more fair, we must be more fair to one another.  And if we want the world to be more forgiving and understanding we must be more forgiving and understanding.  I am not directing any of this to you but to everyone at CLTC and I guess the world.

  I sincerely regret you leaving and see it as a great loss for both you and I.  But any reconsilliation of the situation comes from the forgiveness and understanding.  If not now, then when.   The forgiveness of others begins with ourselves.  Your pal  BWD

Post #63533
Posted 9/24/2007 5:33:15 AM


"Tardmonkey of the Year"

"Tardmonkey of the Year"


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DonC (7/3/2007)
Wow..another Canuck on this board,
that makes two of us.
I think you'll find all the research you need right here.


Taken from this thread - http://www.chickslovethecar.com/board/FindPost60984.aspx

I find it interesting that you would be praising us less than 90 days ago. If I had more ambition, I think I could find more of your praises, Don. But then, that was when you had things YOUR way.


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Post #63537
Posted 9/24/2007 5:37:44 AM


"Tardmonkey of the Year"

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Freedom of speech is denied if one is deemed questionable

Isn't this whole nonsense about you not liking what people were saying?

Freedom from heckling is denied if one is deemed questionable

Didn't YOU deem our (my) comments as heckling, and therefore got upset?

Freedom from withdrawal is denied if one is deemed questionable.

You're gone, aren't you?

Group bullying is encouraged, clusters of one group or several form to support one another without merit to oppress singular individuals.

Sooooo... If multiple people believe something is true then it is bullying? Or only so long as it involves disagreeing with you?


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Post #63538
Posted 9/24/2007 6:39:13 AM


You reap what you sow

You reap what you sow


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Using CLTC and GothamGarbage in same sentence is the most offensive, outrageous, slanderish, inexcusable, inexplicable, and heinest crime a  person can commit on message board

Oh shit, I did it too.






Post #63540
Posted 9/24/2007 7:09:40 AM


Has NO LIFE!!

Has NO LIFE!!


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At Don's request (about 10 times) he has been removed and is no longer a member of CLTC.  Shame he was unable to take criticism. 

Post #63541
Posted 9/24/2007 11:00:36 AM


Whose goin 4 a pint???

Whose goin 4 a pint???


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This is pants. I can't believe it went to this. Ridiculous

DE 66 IS COMING........

Believe and succeed
Post #63546
Posted 9/24/2007 2:56:50 PM


"Andy Smith is my Hero".

"Andy Smith is my Hero".


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I hardly ever post in the club, but I could not let this one go past without comment.

Are we any different...........

We exist because we share. We make comment. We show pics & video. We discuss ideas & give tips. We find or make pieces. In short, we post. They might do that over at GG (I have visited a few times) but, we do not sell 'kits'. We do not promote 'one builder'. We do not have a 'salesman' as an adminitrator. There are many differences between CLTC and GG (look at the photo database, the archive, etc).

With regard to what you are suggesting. I have never had my comments altered or edited in any way. I have always been able to express myself openly on this forum (even when I said the cars never left England). I believe that through DH and the other Admins, I can openly say your latest pic of your build is a POS if I want to (even if I dont have a POS to compare it to). Same as you can give your opinion about anyone elses pic/build/comment. I felt the comments on your build log were fair and not personal. I'm sorry you felt different and wanted your build log deleted.

Please dont make this situation anything more than it is, buy suggesting CLTC and its members have some sort of 'bully boy' group that will hound ya if ya don't agree with them. Nothing could be further from the truth, as I see it.

BTW: If this gets edited, I'll let ya know.

Like you, I am always able to stop visiting &/or posting.



"There is no end but the end is near!"

Post #63548
Posted 9/25/2007 5:19:20 PM


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I am just scratching my head (scratch, scratch ) wondering how old some people are?

Necessity is the mother of invention.
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Posted 10/25/2012 9:24:23 PM


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My Name is Scott Lee, I was involved and was the contracted Web Designer for the site talked about here. I am no longer involved with the domain short of prosecuting a civil action against Mark Towle implicating Kory Geick. To date I have not been paid for all of my work I was contracted to do and therefore will not be returning to serve these persons under any capacity that does not involve the prosecution of the debts owed to me..

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