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vertigo's methods:
USING THE MOEBIUS MODELS TO GENERATE SCALABLE MEASUREMENTS,
BLUE PRINTS, AND MODULES
Obtain 4 shallow (approx. 4” deep) plastic boxes with lids and label them.
WHOLE VIEW
MODULE DIVISION
DISSECTION
SECTIONAL SLICING
Place the kit contents into each box.
Now, while you watch TV, etc. This is going to take some time.
This next step will help you become very acquainted with the DOJ Batmobile.
Carefully separate all the plastic parts in each kit from the plastic
casting trees using a sharp Exacto knife and small sharp diagonal
cutting pliers while being careful not to cut too close.
This next step will enhance your relationship even further.
Carefully, using sharp exacto knifes, half inch wide flat files, emery
boards (fingernail files), and sand paper, etc. affectionately remove
and polish off the remnants of the plastic casting trees that still
remain on each individual part. Completely, on the kit you will build
completely as your whole view, and partially, on the three other kits,
with focus on the parts you will use in MODULE DIVISION, DISSECTION,
and SECTIONAL SLICING. Don’t try to rush this stage with a powered
Dremel tool (small hand grinder) or you will degrade the quality of
your work significantly. Note: You will need to totally build the
SECTIONAL SLICING model if you plan to SECTIONAL SLICE the model as a
whole intact vehicle. You may need a second SECTIONAL SLICING model.
That will depend on your strategy of slicing. vertigo
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| Posted 7/29/2016 8:59:32 PM |
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I have looked at many concept Batmobiles in art on the web. Many have experimented with KIT BASHING. I have included this method for those of you that might be thinking about creating their own Batmobile from scratch.
The Batman Tumbler was conceived by Nathan Crowley through KIT BASHING or MODEL BASHING, a practice whereby a new scale model is created by taking pieces out of commercial kits. These pieces may be added to a custom project or to another kit. For professional model makers, kit bashing is popular to create concept models for detailing movie special effects. Commercial model kits are a ready source of "detailing", providing any number of identical, mass-produced components that can be used to add fine detail to an existing model. Professionals often KIT BASH to build prototype parts which are then recreated with lightweight materials.
For the hobbyist, KIT BASHING saves time that would be spent scratch building an entire model. Hobbyists may KIT BASH to create a model of a subject (real or imaginary) for which there is not a commercial kit.
Although it has a long history, KIT BASHING came to the attention of a wider public via the fine model work seen in TV series such as Thunderbirds and the films 2001: A Space Odyssey and Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. Many of the spaceship models created for these programs incorporated details from tank, speedboat and car kits. Another example is the Batmobile from the 2005 film Batman Begins, as seen in the special features disc of the film's DVD.
Sometimes source kits are selected primarily due to kit quality, and sometimes because a kit closely resembles the desired model result. KIT BASHING is common in sci-fi modeling.
It is not uncommon for parts to be cut and filed into shapes leaving gaps that are later filled with putty. Although a model with putty often looks unprofessional at an early stage, careful painting can completely hide defects. Textural details known as gribbles may be added to enhance a model.
The popularity of ready-to-run, pre-assembled models, even coupled with the increased availability of many unique prototypes using resin castings, seems not to have seriously impacted the art of KIT BASHING.
These days, the typical Hollywood way to handle a complex car like the Batmobile is to model it and simulate it with a computer.
Nathan started the process of creating the Batmobile by model bashing.
Model bashing is a time-honored technique. You go down to a toy store, hobby shop, R/C specialty shop and the hardware store to buy parts -- lots of parts of every size and shape imaginable. You buy lots of plastic models, toys, R/C car kits, metal tubing, etc. You then cut and shape all of those parts to get the desired look for the car. For example, Nathan found that the nose cone from a plastic P-38 model kit made a perfect shape for the jet engine on the back of the Batmobile. So he cut off the nose cone, hollowed it out, added in other parts to make it look like a jet and glued it onto his model.
Nathan built six models like this, all 1:12 scale, before he got the look and the shapes that he wanted. This process took about four months.
Once he had the scale model, he started on a full-size replica.
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| Posted 7/30/2016 7:51:11 PM |
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vertigo's methods of reverse engineering plastic scale models
I like to use compartment divided cases, in particular the Dewalt cases from Home Depot, to organize model parts that will be used for MODULE BUILDING, DISSECTION, and SECTIONAL SLICING.
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| Posted 7/30/2016 8:53:15 PM |
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PLASTIC MODEL REVERSE ENGINEERING
UP-SCALING and 3D VIRTUAL MODELING
I have given you my methods of reverse engineering plastic scale models to extract knowledge, such as, multi-dimensional detail and measurement, without any high dollar use of 3D
scanning technologies like CMMs, laser scanners,
structured light digitizers, or Industrial CT Scanning (computed
tomography).
With CONSTRUCTED MODEL, MODULE CONSTRUCTION, PART DISSECTION, and SECTIONAL SLICING
completed I now hold what I like to call PICTORIAL BLUE PRINTS. Most all multi-dimensional measurements are present in these PICTORIAL BLUE PRINTS waiting to be released from invisibility by translation. Translation can be as simple as using a ruler to measure between any two points on the models.
The next step is converting the PICTORIAL BLUE PRINTS into translated paper and digital blue prints, part files, CAD, 3D CAD, CAM, CAE or other software and finally into DXF cutting and machine files. vertigo
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| Posted 7/31/2016 10:06:21 AM |
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| Hand on heart after I done with the tumbler build, I don't think I'll do one again, we all have dreams , but the cost off them things are unreal
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| Posted 8/5/2016 5:46:37 PM |
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hello everyone,
Spent a full eight hours today graphically experimenting with the B v S Batmobile trying to convert a 12-feet wide x 20-feet long vehicle into a dimensional street legal vehicle. Much of my time was spent in aspect bending explorations. Studied a few hundred images of art sculpture and graphic expressions of the Arkam asylum Batmobile and the Gum Ball 3000 Batmobile. When the two are compared it become quite obvious that the Gum Ball 3000 Batmobile made significant use of aspect blending. vertigo
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| Posted 8/5/2016 8:30:42 PM |
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hello everyone,
Even though I am currently using this method in designing a street legal version of the B v S DOJ Batmobile the method is relevant to many other similar projects.
Ordered a couple of B v S Batmobile toys to use in my study of aspect blending for a street legal Batmobile.
One easy way to get a grasp on aspect blending for the B v S DOJ Batmobile is to study related toy vehicle copies. The usual method used to make cheaper toy copies is to simplify a detailed model with aspect blending. To me these relatively cheap toys created from aspect blending methods are logical studies in aspect blending a complex Bat Vehicle into a simpler street legal vehicle. vertigo
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| Posted 8/7/2016 7:38:48 PM |
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Hello everyone,
Though this represents brainstorming on the DOJ Batmobile it would be viable for other Bat Vehicles such as the Tumbler, Bat Wing, etc.
After looking at all the possibilities for building a street legal B v S DOJ Batmobile and deciding on the route to take one is left with primarily the following choices.
A movie correct externally correct replica in 70% scale with in line seating. Yes they will fit that way if the engine is located in the front. This will give you a vehicle that is approximately 8' - 4" wide and 14' long. From a distance, it will have the low wide look but up closer it will lose the feeling of awe that comes from the massiveness of the original.
Your second route choice and the one I've chosen for myself: Build the body movie correct and full scale, keeping the massiveness of the original and the large tire size. From a side view the vehicle looks full sized because it is. What is lost is width, that low wide look from the front and rear.
Your third route choice is a combination of scales and multi-axis element skewing on multiple continuums that fall between total reality and near abstraction. vertigo
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| Posted 8/8/2016 5:18:32 PM |
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SEARCHING FOR THE RIGHT DONOR VEHICLE
Information and advice already exists on choosing a proper donor
vehicle for the early Batmobiles.
But what if you are building your own design? A donor vehicle could
save you several thousand hours.
For that reason, I have posted this as an example strategy to possibly
use in choosing a donor vehicle for your project.
Example:
Information from the web revealed that the proxy vehicles used to
stand in for the real DOJ Batmobile were Dodge Ram 3500 4 x 4 trucks
with a close matching wheel base, so this is a good place to start
your search. I ordered a 1/25th scale Dodge Ram 3500 model truck to
compare against the 1/25th DOJ Batmobile model. Comparing the original
to possible donor vehicle models in the same scale is an excellent way
to get a pretty good idea of what will fit where. Some refer to this
method as visual intuition or comparative V analysis. Information is
available on the web for most vehicles and I gathered up that which I
thought to be relevant to evaluating the suitability of the Dodge Ram
3500 4 x 4 as a donor. vertigo
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| Posted 8/8/2016 8:24:17 PM |
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As I said on some thread somewhere, I looked into purchasing one of those frames and went to the salvage yard to see them. It is eye opening just how huge that car must be!
But, I am not sure such a full size donor is really needed because the rear wheels an axle on one of those vehicles is positioned well forward of the frame in order to provide for suspension. The rear axle and wheels on the DOJ is at the very back. Thus all that extra frame is not needed.
To achieve this the original puts the engine in "backwards" and routs the drive train back with a converter. I think a transaxle might work as well. Using one of these two drivetrain options is my plan.
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