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  Kruze Auction
 From: Kevin | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:16:26 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

The Black Beauty Molds are almost complete, The BB car is complete and is waiting the new pulls from the molds, to be attached. I took the old Butts & Barris molds and reworked them to match the real car. I am planing to take a month off in June to finish the 89 and mount the body on the pre-preped 66 frame.



 From: Kcgbatman | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:16:40 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Yes it is me. I was not trying to start a war that is why I posted as Fred.
I know alot about the cars, and know for a fact Joan Butts got the paperwork to Mr. Moore not Clint....Of course Kevin would notice the airplane parts on the returns car doesn't he fly? I am just sick and tired of the urban Legend tied to all the cars. facts will be on a website soon. I will go back to lurking now have a nice day

I know all these things cause I have worked for the kit makers...I now work for one of the 2 builders. Mark Towle,and the other is Don Currie ....My cowl is off to them both. I know about all these.
an much more



 From: Kevin | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:16:50 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Big talk from some one who has never seen a car or ever worked on one. You are neather an owner or a bulider. Yes crawl back under your rock.


 From: dude | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:17:03 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Kevin Your statements about everything so far from you supposed knowledge of the Kruse car to knowing about Kory as usual have very little to do with with the truth.

Kevin you are a known liar from the day you lied about your 89 car being finished and on display at some casino and being called out on it.
and this was almost two years ago and you still have not finished it.
or can we expect a new lie any day now about the car?

You are one of the lowest forms of batlife to darken the boards spreading misinformation and lies.

So i guess you really would know if kruse is lying as liars tend to gravitate towards one another.

You and clint and who ever else is involved in your B.S need to be honest about you 66 car and stop using pics of clint's car that mark did the work on and taking credit for it.
What a great way to scam potential customers.



 From: Kevin | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:17:12 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Sure Kory, Dude, Fred, kcg whatever you say
There is no way I would take credit for that rolling pile of crap.
My pictures are posted on Justin's board.
Get a life!



 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:17:27 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

To whom it may concern, Kevin did say the Casino car was his. However, for some reason his returns car isn't done? That IS odd. Now I could really careless if you lie to the people on the boards. But, when you stand idoly by and watch felony fraud take place and do nothing to stop it(which is a crime in most states) It shows a complete lack of integrity.

Kevin were you not at the Kruse auction that the fake 66 sold at? Yes, you were. However, you didn't have the guts to stand up and say The car was a fake at the time the sale took place did you? NO!!!! You stood there with your finger up you A-hoe. Then waited until the begining of the following week to unload this info on Mr. Moore. Remember? If I recall correctly and I do, Chris Woodside was also one of the people at the auction who looked the other way until the auction was over. You and he watched felony fraud take place and did nothing to attempt to stop it. Pretty admirible....NOT!!!!

As far as Kory being an owner goes I hate to inform you are incorrect. He does have a car it is being built and the body is mounted.

Kevin you talk about being a builder LOL show us one replica car you have finished please. OH, still working on it how long has it been?

Ok I'll tell you something (As a builder) Yes I have a car and drive it all the time. If you can't build a Returns car in 4 years the 66 will take you 8 years. Remember boys and girls the returns car has no doors,no hood, no deck lid, to hinge and make function properly. I will say that Kory and I have had our differences but I agree that the Urban Legends need to stop.

As far as Bob Butts goes (God Rest His soul) He was a nice guy. He did make these cars avaliable to us for that I give him the thumbs up. As far as a car builder his cars were Junk but being the only ones out there. people were in awe of the car. The plans provided with his Kits are good for nothing but to wipe ones a$$ with. if you foolow them you will end up with a door sagging death trap. His hinge designs were crap and none of his cars were actually solid. Unless you call plywood zip screwed to the rockers of the donor and the body then zip screwed to the plywood solid. His cars had dogged out 460's with less than 200 hp ta the flywheel. Build one with over 400 hp at the rear wheels that holds together then we will talk.

Then we have Justin, Who has drivin in all kinds of Returns replica's who collects info and plans on writing a building manual on how to build the poorman's batmobile.. . Figgin idiot.

I don't want to hear about how great Don's cars are either. Can you say totally inaccurate. Ever see a car with electrical conduet used to stengthen the body. Justin has he just didn't know it when he looked at Nate's car.

Think what you want but I am so sick of sugar coating this stuff it makes me puke.



 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:17:35 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

ps sorry about the typos


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:17:43 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

where does he get all those wonderful toys



 From: Justin | Posted: 5/8/2005 8:18:03 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Well your brother built the '66, so you are DEFINATELY not a builder, Brett. lol. You guys are a joke. Have you got nothing better to do than bother people who do not like you on the boards? Brett, you were banned from GDog's board. You have been nearly banned from Eric's '66 boards countless times. Get this straight - NOBODY LIKES YOU! You are a big joke in this industry. Whatever your opinions are of me, or of Kevin or of Don or anyone else, it seems to be you against the world my friend. Get a life.


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:18:19 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Justin, How do you know what i have or haven't built? You don't.
I am not banned on g-dogs board. Nor on Eric's.

I have not given opinion Justin I have posted facts. You may not like the facts but they are facts just the same. Justin you don't like my statements then prove what I have stated to be incorrect.

Driven in any 89's lately? Just another urban legend your toting around with you. The facts are Justin you align yourself with known people who turn in builders of the Return cars. The facts are you try to suck up to anyone who you think can help you. The facts are that your the One trying to play some type of expert. Oh you are an expert at collecting pics off the web and collecting bogus stories.

If you want opinion just ask for it I will give it. My opinion is your a joke and that you keep lying to yourself about your poorman's build for under 10k. My opinion is that anyone who lies to themselves about such things is delusional. I see your book is out




 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:18:29 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Justin go to bed. Close your eyes and ride in another 89 Because the only 89 you have driven in is in your dreams. YEEE HAWWWW. Just think that tomorrow while your yankin your ween i will be driving a



 From: Justin | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:18:40 AM |

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Brett, you gonna use that same drawing on all the boards? Fine by me, it is entertaining. Like you. You are entertaining. :) It is like I told you on Eric's site - if I am such a fraud (etc., etc.) why did you call me and offer to buy my site from me???


 From: Justin | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:18:47 AM |

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And - OH YEAH! I turned you down.


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:18:57 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

(Bat-1 sings a song to stop the babies whining) Lullaby and Goodnight go to Sleep and dream of batcars. hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmm hmmm hmmmm hmmm hmm hmmm.



 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:19:51 AM |

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WOOF WOOF, ARF ARF, WOOF ARF, WOOF WOOF, ARF. Did you understand that Justin? If not you better learn to speak BIG DOG.

Translation: " Until you can run with the big dog's you should stay on the porch suckin mamma's hinde tit Lil' Pup".

Justin if I am such a joke how come I have a car, have made countless cowls and suits for satisfied customers, had my costume items in the CBS movie Return to the Batcave? (sarcasticly)I must be out of the loop.

You say to me, "No one likes you". Is that right? Just come out and say it Justin. You don't like me. Which is really your problem, not mine.

Making you or someone else like me has never been my intention.

Justin you worry about what others think of you so your portray yourself a certian way and compromise yourself to make others happy.

Whereas, I couldn't care less if someone doesn't like me for who I am, I don't kiss their ass. I never have, never will. It is called principles Justin. There is nothing worse than a brown noser Justin, it shows lack of integrity.

Someone here is a joke Justin and if the people on this board are not smart enough to know who that is May God help them.

Atomic Batteries To Power, Turbines To Speed.



 From: Justin | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:20:01 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Wow Brett, you're right! I just realised that you are so cool! For someone who doesn't care what people think, you sure spend a lot of time telling everyone how great you are!


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:20:17 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

"Well your brother built the '66, so you are DEFINATELY not a builder, Brett. lol. You guys are a joke. Have you got nothing better to do than bother people who do not like you on the boards? Brett, you were banned from GDog's board. You have been nearly banned from Eric's '66 boards countless times. Get this straight - NOBODY LIKES YOU! You are a big joke in this industry. Whatever your opinions are of me, or of Kevin or of Don or anyone else, it seems to be you against the world my friend. Get a life."


Justin, I am not trying to bother anyone I am laying out the facts for others to deciede for themselves. You bring up Glen and Erics boards like it has some kind of bearing on what I will say. It won't. Justin I don't need some wannabe straightening me out as to who likes me or who doesn't.

I am not the one who has to pretend to be a builder or an army ranger who lives in a dream world. I'll Leave that to you. Kory Proved that.

Justin, You are an internet Vampire who feeds of the work of others. Your claim to fame is by dropping names of who you know and what THEY have done, Not what YOU have done. Let's get real Lil' Pup show us what YOU have done. Show us YOUR builder knowledge. Justin, Stop Talking about doing something and do it. until then I think I will nickname you "The Great Mouth"

So, Great Mouth anything brilliant to show us? Come on Great Mouth Spew some more pseudo facts.





 From: Justin | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:20:27 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Kory proved what? Like when you guys tried REAL hard to attack my military service and then I posted all my documents on the web for you to see, INCLUDING my MOS designator? Or were you too illiterate to read them?

As far as my claim to fame, I spend alot of time telling people I am not a builder, again and AGAIN because YOU keep bringing it up! It is YOU who are always trying to make me out for more than I am. But thanks for making me feel good!

Now go back to telling people that your '66 is a real numbered car. I see that the article was removed from the internet. lol. What, embarrassed that we called you on it? Awwww, poor Brett.



 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:20:37 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Justin you remind me of the Great OZ Or the Great Mouth in this case. Keep on babbling. You Keep bringing up the article that I didn't write. You admitted to lying about the 89 batmobile rides you posted you had taken with unknown owners. You have posted that you were a builder remember when you said to ratwithwings "Do you know who your talking too" acting like you were some great builder. Like I said you portray something you clearly are not. Justine you keep saying your not affiliated with any certian builder and that your site is informational only well again justin you have painted yourself into a corner It is fine with me if you align yourself with Don but don't deny it. Anyone with a brain can see what you are doing.





 From: Justin | Posted: 5/9/2005 8:20:47 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Well then you clearly do not see what I am doing Brett - because you do not have a brain! I did not lie to anyone, and I have proven myself time and again. The only people that attack me are the ones who don't get what they want out of ME - like when I turned you down when you asked to buy my site, or when I refused John's offer to buy a Batmobile. Get over it Brett. And you are right, you did NOT write that article. You only fed them the information, like your car is numbered and Barris tried to buy it off you, etc. etc. You and your brother looked like a couple of naive hillbillys in front of your car, BTW. Oh right, you said they only asked you a couple of questions and then "made up the rest". My bad. :) Funny how you only pop up these days to cause trouble, and yet I am here all the time posting informative stuff and helping people out to the best of my ability. You can hate me all you want, but most people know who to trust. Sorry buddy.


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/10/2005 8:21:03 AM |

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The Great and Wonderful Mouth/Justin has spoken. If I want a site I will build one. You have proven yourself to be a liar time and time again. Your site is not affiliated with any builder. but you take Batkoachs link off because Don gets you to as a stipulation to a deal you have with Don. maybe Don will build you a electrical conduet piece of junk. Hillbilly? LOL I live in Iowa it is flatland you dork. and No we don't grow potatos. when was the last time your builder buddy Don built a 500 hp dyno tuned motor and put it in one of these cars his would shake apart and crack into pieces. I have seen one of his famous builds at Volo needless to say I was not impressed.
It takes a well built car to handle this justin




 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/10/2005 8:22:13 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

If the people know who to trust why have they not defended you? If your the man...... Remember Justin I don't hate you. i just want people to know the truth about the cars. and who they are dealing with. So tell us agin of your adventures in the 89.


 From: Justin | Posted: 5/10/2005 8:22:24 AM |

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Wow. All this because I took John's link off the builder's list on my site since he HAS NOT YET BUILT A CAR. Hmmm... How dare I. I know you have been told by countless people already Brett, so I doubt you will listen now, but grow up.


 From: Bat-1 | Posted: 5/10/2005 8:22:37 AM |

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Justin, If you stand behind what you write I have no problem. However, you portray your self one way then act another. Your site say you don't support any given builder, But then you align yourself with one coercing people? you have shown your lack of intelligence by posting an email proving this.

Justin wrote this to John H.

"No no, its nothing like that John. Don Currie is
helping me out with a special project, and as a
stipulation he asked me to remove it until you finish
paying for his parts. That is all - I do appreciate
your offer and I still might go for it when you get
some cars built. The only thing is that Don is REALLY
helping me out right now, and this was part of the
deal. As soon as you two hash out your issues, your
site will go right back up! (hopefully with pics?)"


What is actually happening here Justin? It is easy to see.

1. "Don Currie is helping me out with a special project, and as a stipulation he asked me to remove it until you finish
paying for his parts."

SYNOPSIS: This proves Justin has aligned himself with Don (contridicting what his site portrays) and is taking orders from Don. Justin how do you know John owe's Don anything?

2. "I do appreciate your offer and I still might go for it when you get some cars built. The only thing is that Don is REALLY helping me out right now, and this was part of the deal."

TRANSLATION: What you are saying Justin is You have found someone else to deal with but if this falls through you may still want to use John in the future. And that Don convinced you to conspire against John so he can coerce or possibly exhort money from him. Is this a crime Batfans?

3. "As soon as you two hash out your issues, your
site will go right back up! (hopefully with pics?)"

TRANSLATION: Justin, what you are saying is as soon as John does what Don says you will put it back up.


SYNOPSIS: Justin, This just shows what a creep you are. You know what I find is extremely funny though, Is that you keep calling other people stupid. Justin, You are your own worst enemy. You talk so much Great Mouth that you contradict yourself at every turn. And in my nearly 40 years on this planet I have come to realize, that, is the first sign of a compulsive liar.






 From: Justin | Posted: 5/10/2005 8:22:49 AM |

RE: Kruze Auction

Get over it Brett. Removing John's link was my choice, and I already explained this on Eric's board. Learn to read buddy. And as far as "Aligning" myself with any particular builder... Once again, read the disclaimer on my site:

"I do not replicate these cars for profit, and I do not sell for any particular builder."

I do not SELL for any particular builder. Stop twisting words to your advantage Brett. And if I DID align myself with any particular builder, it would still be none of your business. Furthermore - you tried this same crap when I posted pictures and defended Doug Hines. Your accusations are getting tired and old, as is your presence here on the board. Post again when you have something helpful to the community kid.



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