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  Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!
 From: rusty | Posted: 2/9/2006 10:16:24 PM |

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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

there's been a few to come from the 66 board here lately


 From: rusty | Posted: 2/9/2006 10:42:35 PM |

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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

the mark dont have molds and they are proably warped
(had to fix the spelling)


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 From: Jack | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:12:02 PM |
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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

The Mark doesn't have molds thing also came from here. Mark didn't want to post any pix, remember? About being warped. When you get your body, I want you to do me a favor and I'll show you what is meant by warped. Again it's nothing that can't be fixed it just inherent to these cars. Hopefully if and when Kevin ever pulls molds off of his car the bodys should be just about perfect. I wish Mark would have taken the time to do all the bodywork to Brin's not Brin's body before he pulled the molds.


 From: Justin | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:26:20 PM |
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"Brin's not Brin's". I like it. And Jack has said something very true here - just because a body is warped is not necessarily a slam. It is a fact. And just because a body is warped, IF it is warped I should say, it can be fixed. I have seen some BAAAAD bodies before. AND I have seen some good ones. They all turn out great with some TLC and time.

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 From: MARK TOWLE | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:34:36 PM |
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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

SOME ONE WANNA SHOW ME WHERE THIER WARPED

DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME

 From: MARK TOWLE | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:38:04 PM |
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AND CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY YOU GUYS KEEP HAMMERING KORY WHEN HE CANT POST IN HIS OWN DEFENCE IMO THATS VERY CHILDISH ON YOUR PART COME ON IF YOUR GONNA STAB HIM AT LEAST DO IT TO HIS FACE AND NOT IN HIS BACK

DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME

 From: MARK TOWLE | Posted: 2/10/2006 12:05:04 AM |
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BTW RUSTY THE STRIP CLUB HAS ALL YOUR MONEY NOW!

DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME

 From: Justin | Posted: 2/10/2006 12:18:54 AM |
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We DO slam him to his face, Mark. We got in his face EVERY time he came around here to cause trouble. Every time he posted under a fake ID, every time he said things trying to provoke a fight, every time he made ridiculous claims that he could not back up. We all got pretty fed up with it, and now he is gone. End of story. But just because he is gone, doesn't mean we won't continue to voice our opinions about him - especially when the subject matter is in regards to trolls or "mouthpieces". Remember, up until recently, nobody could get ahold of YOU personally. Kory was the only way. It is kinda cool to see you posting yourself, and dealing with people directly. Pretty much everyone (with the exeption of a few) got fed up with talking to Kory.

As for warpage issues - perhaps you solved them all? If you have, I would certainly love to know about it. As I've mentioned, if your bodies are the straightest around, I will be glad to tell everyone how great they are. But I know Kevin or Paul could answer the warpage issues much better than I can... I remember even Dan's body had some issues with the way it sat that could not be seen easily in pictures. You had to really look from the correct angle to see it (I am pretty sure his builder took care of all those issues). In addition, I know most of the canopies available today don't fit the body perfectly without some major modifications. The reasoning behind this... I can't remember. Paul? Wanna chime in here? I know there is a backstory but it escapes me for the moment.

Anyways, don't take EVERYthing I say personally Mark, becuase I honestly don't like to fight when it is avoidable. But try to promote your work (and have Kory do the same) by talking up the positive points and explaining to us what you fixed on Brin's car before molding it? Also tell us more about your side mechanics, accessories, etc. THAT is what we all want to hear about and see - not how crappy OTHER builders are. (which is what we got tired of hearing from Kory)


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 From: DonC | Posted: 2/10/2006 12:40:02 AM |

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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

Justin,

I'm proud of ya!
You keep trying and trying with the positive but it ain't gonna work with those guys, it's not in the cards. I know it, you know it and they know it.
Your young...add another 20 years of hard life then take another look at these type of people, they got 'issues' that run deep probably since childhood, it's easier for them to put on a image and lash out at others than it is to deal with their own selves.
Bottom line is they don't care, they're not here for the 'magic' of the cars
There just objects for financial gain ...after this runs out they'll be on to the next golden goose.

We'll still be here.



 From: BATGOD | Posted: 2/10/2006 2:02:08 AM |
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I'm not gonna play this time.

I got slammed on another board and took care of that problem and didn't play there either.

I'm tired of the crap. Was tired a long time ago.

Yep... I've always said that Mark is talented. Never an issue.

But I've always said that I fault his judgement for associating with morons who cold call other people's clients and bad mouth them to attempt to have them request refunds for money to be sent to Mark for the same job.

Mark tells me they don't do that, I produce emails and wave files. He tells me they don't do that ANYMORE, and I provide info that it was done last month and YESTERDAY as a matter of fact.

I've got no problem with Mark, that's common knowledge. Silent Bob and I used to discuss him frequently.

But I have a problem with Geek and that's no secret.

Everyone's entitled to stupid friends and employees. I had an employee we all called "Sphincter Boy". (Sp?)

But a "representative" does just that... REPRESENTS you!... so what does it say about you when your representative acts like a jerk?

I had a representative who screwed over everyone he possibly could before we worked together. Even screwed me once or twice. But the guy was a great glasser and a gifted electrician. A Knight Rider builder in Florida once told me...

"BUT THE GUY'S A CRIMINAL!!!! YOU'RE CONFUSING TALENT WITH LARCENY!!!"

And he was right and I didn't listen and most recently, I got bit in the a$$ again by this guy. So now I'm paying for it and moving on.

Having morons around you in an official capacity only says negative things about you to everyone else.

But that's all I've ever said about Mark.

I want one of those Mach 5's. I think they're great... But he knows I'd splash it in a second, so I'm just waiting for the right person to buy one from him. hehehehe

Oh Justin...

The quick version of the canopy story is that Silent Bob (the grand father of almost all of the cars out there) splash molded one of Jay's cars (Gatlinburg 89... Owners! (Nitro and Nate excluded) Don't forget to pay your respects to that car should you visit... Had that car not been splashed... NONE of you would own one!) and didn't mold the outer edges of the canopy.

(Attn: Jack! Newly scanned photos to follow!!!!!!)



The canopy that Jay made was massively thick DON and ROBERT (and maybe Mark)take note! and it had a 2 inch lip all the way around the outside edges, so it supported itself just fine. Check the alignment in the pic.

Silent Bob's guys in Hemett didn't mold these edges so the canopies sagged when they were pulled from the mold and shipped. No one's taken the canopy and fitted it to the car and pulled new molds so there's some warpage issues there. The "train" section of the hood sagged as well and it seems that 89's get wider every year. There's also some warpage issues with the front passenger ???? "Pincer?", "Bumper?" whatever. Silent Bob's car sagged right there and just about every car out of the molds made from it have issues at that point.

But... while everyone's on the verge of a "who's the best?" campaign... I'll stir things up a bit (Don't I always?) and show you a pic of a long time builder of 89's (Who used to work for Jay... What? Do you think the guys who worked for him back then just "forgot"? hehehehe.

Here's a 66 out in front of his shop and I have pics of his 89's too. His cars came out of the Jay molds and were made long before Silent Bob pulled his molds. NONE of you have ever seen or even heard about HIS molds.

Hehehehehe




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 From: Justin | Posted: 2/10/2006 2:45:53 AM |
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Is this one of the guys we've discussed on the phone before?

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 From: Jack | Posted: 2/10/2006 5:05:29 AM |
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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

Paul aweseome new pix and even better info. As always thanks for sharing. Oh yes I'm glad you're back.


Mark how about a shot of the body from the front?

About Kory: I sent you his email. Well what do you think? That email came to be out of the blue and I responded the most polite and professional way I could and then BAM the crap starts. I try to make piece with the guy but he doesn't want it. I don't think he wants to come here to share info and help others. If he did maybe he would have in the past. Sorry that's not meant to be a slam.

So anyway back to the pictures.



 From: Dee | Posted: 2/10/2006 7:02:18 AM |
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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

Iíll also be happy when that Irish Fecker gets his kit.

I love it.

Hay Mark, Is one of the guys in ur photo Kory??? Just to put a face to the name.


Hmmmmmm

 From: BatDemon | Posted: 2/10/2006 9:25:56 AM |

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Holy S&*T Mark! I had to take a double take at that guy next to Tommy Lee. He could be my doppleganger, right down to the smile.


 From: Kevin | Posted: 2/10/2006 10:35:16 AM |
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Kory came to this board trying to discredit others including myself. In all his post he hasnít offered any useful help to anyone or any type of informative posts. He argued with anyone on this board that didnít see things his way. It was evident that he didnít do his home work on this car and just made thing up on how this car was put together along with the origin and history of the car. I have no idea where all his miss-information came from; many of his tails still linger on. If this information he is putting out came from you then shame on you Mark!

On the other hand you made many bold statements on how you had already completed a full build on an 89, Brinís car. Brin came forward and commented that the car no longer belonged to him and it was your property. So why no pictures after so many requests, could it be because you never did the build. You also made claims of having working guns, turbines, burner section and so on we didnít see any proof of this either, we did see one side of the mechanics section.

Several 66 owners came forward with their concerns about their builds and the quality of the workmanship. From what I saw on the 66 board you made no attempt to offer to correct the discrepancies with their cars you and Kory both attacked these members, with personnel remarks on their stature or personalities. Others would not comment on the public boards did comment on the private boards and with telephone conversations.

Clint came forward over a year ago complaining of the shoddy work done on his car, sighting that the door hinges were put together using wooden gate hinges. A bolt was run through upside-down and welded to the hinge causing the soft metal to wear out prematurely. You commented on the board many times that it was because Clint demanded that you build his doors to the same specifications as Bob Butts did them. Several times you responded saying that it was all Clintís fault and not yours. Since then I have reviewed Clintís video and you can clearly see that the hinges that you used are of your design and match the ones that you posted on the 66 board, just before all these issues were raised.

You recently made a statement saying on the line of how can some one make a qualified judgement on a car that they have never seen by just seeing a photo? Hasnít Kory been doing just this very same thing for years with out ever seeing one of your cars or anyone elseís for that matter, you have never had a problem with it before. My question to you is what qualifies Kory to make these comments on this or any other board, for some one without any background, degree or real working knowledge in any of the disciplines in these areas of expertise? Would you like to inform the board what Kory really does for a living other that being your shell?

MARKS HINGE


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 From: Hassiem | Posted: 2/10/2006 11:08:04 AM |
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Is this what this Forums about?


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 From: 2wylde | Posted: 2/10/2006 11:44:04 AM |
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It's all good info hassiem. I knwo that someday I'll buy a body and these are the guys we'll have to go to for one. It's nice to knwo abou ttheir personalities, the quality of their work, their customers etc. Like Jack said, the more info we have the better the cars will get.

As far as splash molds and all the molds people have made off the orginal body, why didn't any of the builders ever fix the body problems and then make their set of molds? In smaller scales, if you have a crappy master, you do all the work to it and then mold the reworked piece. So, your molds put out a quality piece instead of just reproducing all the problem spots. Is this different with the full size body Kevin, Paul, Mark? It sounds like Kevin has done the work ahead of time and should have the best body then right?


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 From: rusty | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:28:57 PM |

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RE: Time to throw in the TOWLE!!!!!!

mark told me he done alot of work to the car he molded (the canopy and stuff) and i have told people on this board (not in posts)a month ago that he told me he done so before anyone knew about my body....


 From: Jack | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:30:41 PM |
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I think it's no secret that Kevin and I hate each other.... But honestly if and when he follows through with his master plan then all of the problems will be fixed. Kevin are you hearing me GED.


 From: Jack | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:36:33 PM |
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Mark I know you hate for folks to talk about kory behind his back but I have to ask why aren't you defending him? Not trying to stir up anything but can you tell us anything positive that he has contributed to CLTC? If you want him back then there needs to be a reason other than to create tension and more wars. We already know you have a great 89 kit so we don't need him always repeating "If you want a kit CALL ME". Well unless you maybe give DH a free 89 kit for all the free advertisment. By my count CLTC has already sold 2 or 3 kits for you. That seems fair to me, right DH?

FREE KIT FOR DH, FREE KIT FOR DH, FREE KIT FOR DH, FREE KIT FOR DH,



 From: rusty | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:45:12 PM |

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and jack why did you say you wish mark had took the time to do the body work how do you know ? and justin did say he didnt have molds and he said he had friends who know mark dont have molds and he got someone to come over from the 66 board to say they didnt think he had molds .....so if everyone cant see where Im coming from i just going to stop . with this i dont have anything against anyone and i like it when justin gets everything going and im not lying i think justin likes to make a point just like a lawyer and i like the peoples court and i think kory's the same way make a room put up a new subject everyday and let'em have at it!!! (who would make a good judge) anyone else like that idea


 From: Tim | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:48:53 PM |
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I imagine there will be more sales too once Rusty gets his and tells everyone how great it is. I also have no doubts that Rusty will tell us what a piece of crap it is if that turns out to be the case.

So have we officially entered into day when these kits are being sold openly without fear of you-know-who?



 From: rusty | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:53:05 PM |

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tim i will let you look at it and you can give an unbiased opinion you cant beat that


 From: Tim | Posted: 2/10/2006 1:56:21 PM |
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Yes, I'm really looking forward to that, thanks.

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 From: Jack | Posted: 2/10/2006 2:14:51 PM |
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Rusty I'm only basing what I said about the bodywork from what I can see in the pictures. They are the exact same problems as mine. When you get it if you want to I'll tell you where to look and you can tell me what you see. Or Iíll send you pixs of mine and you can compare. Please don't misunderstand; I think it's a great kit. One because it is available. I only wish that I could have gotten a kit that nice 3 years ago but at the time everyone was very quite about it and as far as I knew it was the only one out there. Don't take my opinion from what I see in the photos as gospel. I haven't seen it in person. Like I said I'm sure you will be happy with it, as I am happy you got it. Remember I have no problems with Mark in fact I think I've always complemented his work (of course based on the photos). At one time Mark had the best build tutorial posted on his website. I hope he will do the same with the 89 maybe on Gotham Garage.



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