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  Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?
 From: starlight | Posted: 8/28/2004 11:25:46 PM |

Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?

Why not other cars like Bond cars or Knight Rider?
Why this car particular?

Is it b/c it's one of a kind and doesn't exist in real life?

For me, it's b/c I'm a huge batman fan and realization of a good movie + good batmobile have made a strong impression on me to this day.

 From: sg1star | Posted: 8/29/2004 12:10:11 AM |

RE: Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?

im darwn to other cars just as much, i jsut like other cars for diffrent reasones, the reason i like the 89 batmobile, is to me its what i would see the ture dark knight driving, ever other batmobile is just to flash-e

 From: The Joker | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:49:06 AM |

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its got stealth, its virtually invulnerable, jet powered, "chicks love the car"...what more could a guy ask for? When I think of batman i think of a man that can "strike fear into the hearts of men" with an awesome vehicle that is so powerful that it sends shivers down your spine...not winning their affection by flashy lights and publicity.

 From: KeatonCar | Posted: 8/29/2004 5:55:21 AM |

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The one thing that this car has going for it is a truly out of time appeal. It is jet powered, yet the guages and displays are from an almost victorian era. The car has the classic lines of a vintage land speed car, it looks from the front kind of like the 1980 English land speed record holder Thrust 2 with a smaller turbine. For me it IS the Batmobile of choice, here's why.......

It's a brute, a bully... it's that dirty, large and smelly fat kid from the wrong side of the tracks that would always chase you and try to steal your bike when you were a kid. It looks hard as nails, it sounds hard as nails, it was as hard as nails. Nothing wobbled on it, nothing lit it up like a fourth of July carnival, and noone was going to to put a sign on it saying "please kick me, I suck." Check your back Joel... Verdict: The One TRUE Batmobile, God bless you Anton, rest in peace and thank you. File under " Filed here by mistake....."

The West car was good for it's time, BUT.... a bat is a creature of the night. I am sure that more people would warm to the West car if it had been driven more at night. The suspension was floaty and soft, and thus body roll was in the extreme. Finally it looses points for the red leather interior, open cockpit and red bat door logo's Verdict : A sixties classic that deserves to stay there, file under "Break glass only in case of emergencies or time travel."

The Kilmer car has quite a few things wrong with it... it looked... well... small. Also the fins wobbled on it clearly. The neon glow was a no-no, the lit wheel hubs were a no-no. The front lights reminded me of benny the cab from who framed roger rabbit... and finally, it didn't look like it could defend itself and looses points for the obvious lack of security features... if someone breaks into the batcave everything should shut down and be sealed off, NOT be fully open and ready to be driven away ( robin.. riddler, even aunt harriett could have stolen this baby.) Verdict : sadly...style over substance, a poor substitute for our beloved car. File under "break glass only as a last resort."

Now to the car you all really hate, the Day-Glow turbined, Cartoony Clooney car. The thing with this car is to take it as you see it right????? ...... errrrrr....NO.

With this car you have to admire it BEFORE Batman actually get's into it and turns on the christmas tree lights. The cockpit is as open as a 24 hour filling station, the plated silver has to be pretended not to be seen, it takes an absolute age to leave the cave, and is even slow enough that Robin's Redbird can catch it while it's still trying to leave.

You can all tell I really hate this car can't you, BUT I DONT. I actually think that this is the better successor to the Keaton car than the Kilmer version. For one thing, it has the longer looks of the Keaton Car. I also like the split afterburners. The back fin design is nice too, sure it would look better with a sealed cockpit, and the wheels less chromed, o.k. the car would look better with no chrome at all... and now, let's get to that Disney 20,000 leagues under the sea nautilus inspired turbine.

I really think that this is where they got the idea from, if anyone out there is expert enough to remodel and photoshop a picture of a proper custom turbine intake and not the current front end, I really think that people would warm to this design more. Maybe, just maybe... somewhere hidden under tarp, in some grunge infested warner warehouse is the version we should have had, with out the northern lights display hood. Verdict : A better car than people give it credit for, true it is let down by an aweful front end when in use, and that is usually enough for most, but for me better than the roadster Kilmer car and worth more attention, " File under break glass in the extreme chance of a body refit "

And finally we come to the Balemobile. Is this really a true Batmobile at all, it already has been named " The Tumbler." Well I am sure if they ever need another tank style vehicle for a new version of James Cameron's Aliens, here is where they should begin and end the search.

When this car was revealed after the false pictures were shown on other websites as the new car( you know who you are) Someone at warner's must have thought, " Shit, we better get some shots of the real car out there to stop people badmouthing the new film." Well mr. pressman, I gotta tell ya, I saw your picks, I saw the licence show reveal video, I even saw the chicago footage and the loading of it onto a trailer pictures.... and I think that this is the worst looking car EVER!!!!!

To me it looks like a Hummer that was hit by a train, the front is ugly, the sides are ugly, the back looks like the tyres are crapping the afterburner. Dude, this car is hippy haired geek girl, mouth Braces and milk bottle glasses ugly, is armageddon 2 being filmed and this is the new nasa armadillo??????

 From: The Joker | Posted: 8/29/2004 9:01:13 AM |

RE: Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?

I couldn't have expressed it any better KC.

 From: Webmaster | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:59:43 PM |

RE: Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?

Funny thing about the false pictures of the new batmobile.

It was around 1 or 2 AM back in March 13th.
I was browsing through google image to find any pictures of the 1989 batmobile and the search brought up one of the picture from www.canole.com.
But when i clicked on the image, the link was broken.
But I checked the entire site at www.canole.com and figured out that the images were all located under images folder. So I put the 'images' in between the googled link and was able to find 4 strange looking batmobile pics.

I didn't know what to make of it, so I emailed the webmaster and asked what this batmobile was. Then I posted the pics on various websites with questions if these could be the new batmobile?
I posted on Brotherhood of the Bat, and Batman-On-Film and Super Hero Hype.
The guys at brotherhood of the bat had already seen it and thought nothing of it. Some guys at Batman on Film were commenting and thought it'd be fun to send it to Harry Knowles at Ain-It-Cool-News and I think it wide spread from there.

And then the rest is history. I think some other guys at SHH! contacted www.canole.com too and got the message out and that this wasn't the new batmobile.

Here is the email that I received from Chris Canole exactly the following morning all this hoopla began.

'I was commissioned to build the first fully functional
Batmobile for a Japanese client resulting in the vehicle you see on
my WEB site. The gentleman had a temporary contract with Warner
Brothers for one of the future Batman movies, but became impatient
and, well you know how this kind of Hollywood story ends.
As for the car, many people who saw the first two Batman
movies recognized their car could only go 30 m.p.h., so I had to
design a car that could reach 150! Imagine what it took...a 454
Supercharged Chevy Cheyenne engine and those boosters on the rear are
gas powered air conditioning jets like they use in gigantic buildings
like the NBC studios.
I sculpted the entire car out of surfboard foam glued to the
frame and David Coons of Coons Surfboards did the glassing. Total
time from start to finish was about three years.
I installed a Panasonic "talk back" computer system to give
the driver a car with an attitude.
As to where the car is now...who knows...maybe the Martian
Rover will come across it in the future.

Christopher Canole'

I don't think to this day (guess until now), Chris Canole knows that it was me who brought all this attention to him on that day.

 From: Stupid Whyte Dude | Posted: 8/31/2004 3:46:04 PM |

RE: Why are you guys drawn into this particular batmobile?

It's because Batsey is riding in Gotham to run out the baddies, not going to Nopi.

 From: Mr A | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:21:06 PM |
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I consider myself to be a normal guy.

A car to me, is just a way to get from A to B. I want a safe reliable vehicle thats practical and economical to run. End of story.

I was never "into" cars like some of my other friends.

However,the first time I stood next to an 89 Batmobile, my world changed.

I fell in LOVE with a car (cue Jerry Springer)

I have been back to see the car many times. Bought the 1/18th scale diecast. Took my friend & his kid to see her, cause he's into cars (any excuse) I even took my kids two weeks in a row cause it was Batman weekend(they got to sit in her) as another excuse.
My wife thinks I'm mad (she did already, so thats not a problem) because I keep talking about this car.

Since I came across this website, things have got worse.

Now I'm acually talking about what it would take to build one, how she would do on the road, what mod's would make it street legal, how I might come up with the cash (kidding about the last part, my wife has limits).

This is all thanks to this website and the JOKERS who run it, probably Anton Furst is guilty as well.

Sombody gotta stop me before it's too late!!!

In reality, like most things in life...It does'nt come down to luck, money or power (unlike Batman?). It comes down to PERSEVERENCE, SACRIFICE and DETERMINATION to get what you want.

If you can help others along the way, thats a bonus.

RESPECT to you all.

Mr A

 From: Webmaster | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:23:34 PM |
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Where did you see the 89 mobile?

And how'bout some pictures?

 From: BATGOD | Posted: 8/11/2005 2:55:09 AM |
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Because it looks like no other car ever made before it's time.

It's a "train thing". It's a locomotive!

There are a ton of cool cars out there, even more "interesting" cars. The 66 was a cool car in it's day. The Futura was designed to look like the Jetsons drove it to the grocery store. The gulwing canopies were awesome and truly inspired design.

Personally, I think they should have been left on the 66. Would have made Batman bullet proof. But they went for visibility instead. Oh well!

The car was really radical for its time. And this was a time where the "Legends" were welding together bathtubs to make cars and making customs out of ordinary school busses. (Anyone remember the "S'Cool Bus" at the auto shows?)

In 1989, we got a chance to see something revolutionary. A train mated with a limousine. And we never saw anything like that in movies or TV. As for the comments about the tumber being more practical... I only direct you to the scene where the 89 scoops up stopped cars and flips them on their roofs like the standard cow-catcher on a locomotive. It's long like a train, it's got the engine styling like a train, the canopy is set way back like the crew compartment of a locomotive, the front end sweeps like a futuristic cow-catcher and the sides have parts similar to the workings of a steam train. All that was missing on it was a steam whistle when it smashed through objects.

Forget the Tumbler "tank", head to head? the "Train" would smash right through it.

So the styling was "too cool" and unusual...

So was the finish.

When you look at it, it wasn't black. (Would have ruined the look of the film to see the car in gloss black)

It wasn't grey...

It wasn't any color you'd expect to find on a car at all.

It was "steely" and industrial...

It was a locomotive.

(I need only to defer to the Batmissle to close this arguement )

And you got the sense that this thing was indestructible.

Then, moments later, the shields came up.

That was too cool. The ultimate car alarm!

Can't tow it, can't scratch it... sure as hell can't steal it!

(I take offense to the Red Triangle Circus Gang being able to hack Batman's security code like a suburban home garage door opener. Not happening!!!)

And if you had a garage full of cool cars and all the money in the world ("Is this a garage or a car museum Bruce?") Then you're a car guy!

Bruce Wayne was a car guy. He might have taken the Tumbler out of need when he was a kid.

But then he bought a Lambo and learned a sense of style...

And got a real car!

Of all the Batmobiles, this is my favorite because just standing in front of it makes you smile. The other Bat cars don't do that for me. And when you climb in the driver's seat, your mind plays the score for you.

Every fan that has ever climbed in the seat of the General Lee makes the Cooter noise, "Nananananananana Na" for the 66, "woo woo" for the Knight Rider, and "Roads?" for the BTTF Delorean.

But no other Batmobile but the 89 makes you smile at your passenger when your butt hits the seat and say


No other car.

"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!

 From: Webmaster | Posted: 8/11/2005 3:27:37 AM |
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Yup, what he said

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 From: JTC | Posted: 8/11/2005 7:38:52 AM |
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For me it takes me back to being 10 years old and believing an ordinary man could be a superhero.

 From: Mr A | Posted: 8/11/2005 9:11:13 AM |
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I saw the Kilmer car & a '66' in Keswick, England. In a place called "Cars of the Stars", along with many other vehicles (such as the Munsters hotrod, Mad Max's Interceptor, KITT & Chitty Chitty Bang Bang).

It was a cool car collection. But that was it.

Then I discovered that the guy who owned the collection (called Peter Nelson)had opened up a second place near Edinburgh, Scotland. Only 50 miles from where I live.

Took the kids along, and came across the 89 Anton Furst Batmobile.

I dont care if it's a movie car, or a replica. When you see this car in front of you, you just gotta smile. It is so impressive.

I dont care if it costs the earth, is too difficult to handle on the open roads, or if it takes me 5 years. I just gotta have one!

Keep going back just to look at her, She's worth the entrance fee alone.

Mr A

 From: The BATMAN | Posted: 8/11/2005 1:04:03 PM |

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The "Train" would smash accross it? No , i dont see that happening, specialy when a car was built for looks alone. The 89 batmobile barely did anything without practical effects, like wires on those cars you say it smashes and flips on their roof... very impressif(there's even a pict of that on the board here). Look its nice to have a "flashy" car, but if it cant do anything for real, whats the point. I guess some people like non practical cars here. I dont know whats so batman about that car, besides having been named "batmobile" and been in a "batman" movie, its just not the real deal. Whats with the curves and smoothness, specialy the back fins...and come on , whats so cool about "clown trippers"?? I just find the 89 car looks like a life-sized toy! The car shell itself isnt made of tough material, fiberglass? Now how is that suppose to be menacing? We're talking about the real cars here, real structure. Forget what its "supposed" to do in the film. This is batman , not bruce wayne driving. Keep the smooth and fancy cars for the public life (bruce wayne). The guy has a war to fight where's he going to go with a quite long car that could be very hard to turn in some tight corners , it even showed that in a bat-film. He had to trow something around a pole to make a tight turn. Quite a good start. Face it, this is BATMAN and he's a very brutal guy and leads a rough fight , he really needs more a "TANK" than a rocket. Im sorry to bust your fantasies but i like the Tumbler better and i've seen just about too many absurd remarks about it. The batmobile is a tool , not a fancy distraction. Its supposed to care people away and look menacing, not make people fall in love with it. Tell me, reality check, all you people that have seen it in life are all drooling over it, now how could that be scary? Tumbler might be a ugly LOOKing car but its there for its practicality and use. The only thing the tumbler faked in the film was the roof jump and the way it opens. Those are the only "cheats" done, everything else the car does. The military tested this car, that alone has to say something because i dont remember them approving the old one. The 89 batmobile was only meant for the burton movies, only in a vision and city like in those two films would it actualy be "menacing". Also btw, for you "train" experts, i've never seen a train smash a car it two, a regular car just gets bent right in the middle and pushed in front of the train, but i havent seen ever a car get broken in two. Now imagine a reinforced "tank" .... i doubt its even gonna fold a bit. Have you ever seen a tank getting cut in half by a train.... i havent. When you make comparison about 89 being better than the Tumbler at least bring something solid to the table. It very lame to be all "oh this is a tough car (because i want it to be and it looks that way)" it flips cars upside down. Whats with these wires then? IMO b89 is just a regular car with a "turbine" in the middle as for the tumbler a "tank" with a real jet in the back. Im still surprised at how everyone gets excited everytime they see the same damn car over and over every possible angle. Dont you guys already know what it looks like, why do you keep asking for pictures? There's so many of them already...

from : http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?obj_id=30847&aff_id=0&this_cat=Development+Heck

" Anyhow, the bat-mobile itself is a fully-working, 160mph capable assault vehicle that's been tested at a local UK Ministry of Defence site by a military test driver, as well as location shots in Prague (I think). It's been doing stunt jumps, and I understand that the rear jet is used to boost/stabilise here. Yep, that thing on the back works - my friend described seeing a heat haze that belonged, on further investigation, to the jet on the back of this thing being tested."

i know this makes you guys all happy;

This is my ideal batmobile;

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 From: BATGOD | Posted: 8/11/2005 2:26:04 PM |
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"Im sorry to bust your fantasies but i like the Tumbler better and i've seen just about too many absurd remarks about it."

Then you won't mind one more...

Sorry to bust YOUR fantasies, but all that pretty metal on the Tumbler is lightweight aluminum sheet. Your turbine is fibreglass. At least our turkeyfeathers are metal. Would turn to tinfoil in a real world collision. So let's not get into the "those cars were on wires" discussion.

Debating "real world design contingencies (sp?)" is best left on BOTB where everyone is trying to make their Batsuits bulletproof so they can fight crime in their neighborhoods.

But we all here do appreciate your insights on the design aspect of the car and would love to hear more of your opinions as to why Nathan designed this or that. I'd like to hear your thoughts on his inspiration.

Do you know that that Zurian's inspiration for the Kilmer car was a dragon head. Yep! Nostrils, eyes, crowning fin, ears and teeth! All there, nothing to do with a Bat at all. Paint that car green and gold and you've got a Hong Kong parade float.

"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!

 From: SideCar | Posted: 8/11/2005 3:05:13 PM |
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[quote]So I put the 'images' in between the googled link and was able to find 4 strange looking batmobile pics.[/quote]

Me being new here I'm probably the only one not aware of this story. I don't believe I've ever seen the 4 pictures you are talking about. Could you point me to them or post them? Just curious to see what it looked like.


 From: Justin | Posted: 8/11/2005 3:09:51 PM |
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I miss Starlight. Can somebody track her down?

I made these icons:

 From: Tim | Posted: 8/11/2005 3:18:43 PM |
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Just key in Canole Batmobile into Google images and you will see.

 From: The BATMAN | Posted: 8/11/2005 4:11:03 PM |

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Actualy the Tumbler did real collisons during filming while the 89 one im not so shure about that and i very much dubt it. It hit a fence you say, well tumbler hit a fence, a "Wall" and a booth, add some more stuff to it , like running over a police car without any ramp. Try doing that with a low to ground "supercar". It would break its shiny looking turbine in a sec. And i do not care about some ridiculous design of the kilmer car. Seriously i just dont know why you so stuck to admit "yes this is a sleek and more look based car than pratical" , so you like shiney cars, at least just admit. Dont try to sell me on the 89 batmobile. Dont try to say im selling you on the Tumbler because all im doing is seeing everyone drool over a round shaped, sleek and curvy car. I prefer my 4X4 and you like your supercar. Its just like in real life, a ferrari versus a hummer, who do you think would win in a toughness battle? Its like comparing apples and oranges. So before you tell me your hero Anton Furst's (was he the builder?) car is better, try to compare it to something similar grounds, more like the BF and the B&R car. Tumbler stand on its own ! Also its not like i came in here and issed you favorite car. This is the "what you like about this car" thread and i said what i dont like about it. I know most of you like the car . If you dont want me to "attack" the car, well just quit taking cheap shot at the other car without any damn good reason or comparison. But me i told you why i prefer the other car. So stop taking it to the heart.

By the way , spare me the sarcarstic/angry remarks because its hard to make a conversation with someone that just doesnt care what you say. Instead of getting your ego in here, ignore what i say and admire the 89 pictures everyone post in here, while ill look for Tumbler ones! Call us even.

Nice coat!

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 From: timwylie | Posted: 8/11/2005 4:53:19 PM |

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I will admit that the 89 was made for looks and that as far as real world design, the tumbler probably can do more, but you seem to gloss over some fallacies with the tumbler. All the effects that the tumbler did were very carefully planned. It couldn't really just break through a real wall because it's front tires are exposed. Yes, I'm sure the car drives great and it looks cool, but neither of the cars are very practical.

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 From: BATGOD | Posted: 8/11/2005 5:43:23 PM |
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Amen Tim

Wasn't there a thread with pics somewhere around here showing the custom steel bar that was mounted on the outside of the front passenger Tumbler tire to enable it to "smash" through the guard house and aluminum fence?

"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!

 From: The BATMAN | Posted: 8/11/2005 9:46:10 PM |

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Thats why when i said wall i put it like this ->"wall"<- ! Also , the picture you speak of, look again and look closer, its the actual side of the car! No its not reinforced, its just because of the darkness, angle of the car and fence pieces that u can barely see. Id be glad to edit that picture just to point it out. Also , yes of course everything had to be planned because this is a movie and its planned for safety reasons. Also some shots were done in different setting either one shot on location and the other shot on studio. The same goes for the 89 car. Im very fascinated by the Tumbler, YES, i find it to be a very amazing piece of machinery. The car cost 1.7 million i believe for each and obviously its because of the stuff it can do. I guess we'll have to wait for the making-of. I know the only time it used a ramp was for the cave entrance dive because the was no real cliff it could jump from so they had to pull it on a jump. I also like it because it looks powerfull. Look one thing that would make me love the 89 car is if it had sharper more stealthy edges, i just find the shape is not well balanced. It looks powerfull from the front, but the back is too round and seems weak. That is why my favorite batmobile is the animated one, but its ficticious. So from real batmobiles you know which one i like. Let me know if anyone has seen a real animated version built!

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 From: Tim | Posted: 8/11/2005 10:05:50 PM |
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Everyone knows that I like the Tumbler as much as anyone, but to disrespect the '89 that way... Can we vote someone off the island?

 From: The BATMAN | Posted: 8/11/2005 10:16:20 PM |

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Wow, this is ridiculous.... its a damn car man! Some people tend to forget that. I wish people would shut you down for having an opinion. What is this, everytime someone comes around comparing something and showing all the "facts" do you people react that way? It just makes me think so much as if id be in school. You know it happens that people say the way they think, i guess some can listen to opinions more than others...
Anyway im very dissapointed with the way people tend to overreact when the thread is clearly about finding out why people dig it so much. This is a site about the cars from all of the movies and there's almost nothing but talk about the 89 car, but you dont see me judging people for that. Everyone's got their taste. You know what, nevermind me, thats right , be stuck up and listen to only yourself, i guess i cant have an opinion...

ps: i wonder if most of you even like Batman, im shure its just his car!

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