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 Posted 4/7/2008 7:14:02 PM |
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"Tardmonkey of the Year"
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| Posted 4/7/2008 7:22:30 PM |
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Resident CLTC
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| Here is a picture of Chris car that MT painted you can see overspray, dirt in the paint and orange peel. Chris has a lot of pictures a lot more worse than that I will have to get them from him. His contract reat a show quality paint job. What do you think. 
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| Posted 4/7/2008 7:23:26 PM |
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| Posted 4/7/2008 7:28:36 PM |
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First post by me. Sorry it has a negative tone.
Just wanted to point out the obvious. "DarkKnightReturns" is none other than Mark Towel's new GEEK and puppet named Scott Lee from WV. Scot is the designer of Beach Towels site. Scott is getting a POS '66 build from Towel if he does what he is told and is a good boy.
The eBay handle BATGOD has been getting harassed from is none other than Scotts to, "Bambi-Lee" based out of WV.
Scott says "I just watched a You Tube video pointing out a conspiracy." What a dope he is. He persoanlly posted the video and admits to it at gothamgoons.net
He is actually doing exactly what he said he did not like to see in his rants from 4/6/08
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The rants of Scott on 4/6
I honestly thought people were good and honest and that people that loved Batman were better than most. I must say I am deeply saddened now. I have tried a few things to give certain people on the internet that moderate certain boards the benefit of the doubt and I have to conclude now in all honesty that I am completely convinced that the rumors of unhappiness bad business practices and mistrust being spread about Kory and Mark are not only being perpetrated and propogated but intentionally continued by competitor builders and their buddies. It absolutely breaks my heart that all these people that collect or build things Batman have completley lost any integrity or honesty they should have learned from reading Batman or watching the movies or TV show. These people refuse to let Mark or Kory defend themselves on their pages as they would or should have a right to.
It has also been proven to me by my own attempts that these same people will block ban and delete anyone that tries to question the things they claim about Kory and Mark Towle only so thay can make money and get your business by defaming Kory and Mark Towle as they tried to get mine this way.
For you the viewer, judge for yourself. I challenge you to go to these boards where they say terrible things about Mark Towle and Kory register and attempt to just question their motives in their forum. Do it honestly with genuine curiosity and learn for yourself what is truly happening. If you become a member and just in the slightest try to question or ask for proof of the claims they make against Kory or Mark you will see the results.
After you are banned before you even get a question posted, I request you return to Gotham Garage and report what was done to you. I feel so bad for the people that feel they have to do this to sell their products. I feel shame and sadness for them. My heart and my belief in good human nature is for the moment suspended in disbelief.
For those of you who will be told I say these things because I am the web designer for this site and in line for a car from Mark Towle, I say take my challenge. Go to these sites register and rebut even in the kindest or slightest of ways and see what is done to your new fledgling membership on these sites.
I feel such shame for you the people that slam others and do not give them or even the casual onlooker a chance to ask for proof or justification for your slander.
I am so deeply ashamed of all of you. I think you are lacking in the moral character I once held dear to all my fellow Bat enthusiasts. I am so damned disgusted that anyone could be this way much less a wide conspiracy of collected Bat Builders trying to play king of the Mountain against the number 1 Batmobile Builder in such a deceitful dishonest low life way simply for greed. Get your builds and your clients honestly with good deeds and good work not with lies and censorship in what we all would hope could be a free internet society with each person given a free voice, a free vote and an unaltered opinion. These boards are practicing professional homicide against Mark Towle and Kory and quite frankly I am so completely disgusted in their infancy, immaturity and desperation. Karma guys..... Karma is real; when it comes back to you at least you will know you dearly earned it. Your Mothers should hang their heads and cry real tears for the types of sons they have raised.
Scott
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Hello Jim, I understand what you are saying but it is not just that thread in fact It is many threads, many phone calls, secret emails, many lies, many people offering free parts and assistance in builds IF they slam Mark and Kory to try and ruin their business. Banning Kory is one thing, banning and deleting any new or old members that have always been good members and begins to see what is being done is simply outrageous. Be prepared for the same thing to be done to you as I am sure it is going to be done against you and myself and anyone that is not in this conspiracy or has more self respect than to pass lies and deception for a free set of arials or a reduced price on a car. Many people will just believe what they hear and not do the research or contact the actual people that have the knowledge or the proof they need to make an honest decision. If people go to these sites and ask for proof they willo get no proof, they will get banned their questions deleted and blocked from posting on these boards.
I hope anyone considering what is being done to Mark Towle will disregard the propaganda and see for themselves what he has to offer and not believe a band of people out to take him down with deceptive rumors and artificial postings on the internet. I wonder who will be the first to get a summons at his door and be forced to travel to CA to appear in court and prove his public yet unproven statements against Mark Towle in front of a judge. I wonder who's kids will lose their home due to their Father's lies and deceptions. Just really sad. I am sure it will come to this eventually. If called in to testify, I will speak honestly and when I do it will be very costly for certain dishonest individuals.
Scott
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I tried to play peace maker saying all the same things you just said. I appealed to peoples sensibility and fairness but was punished for doing so. It is clearly evident to anyone that looks hard to whom the people are that are doing these things that they are competing builders with monetary gain and fame as their only interest and have no problem spewing defamation against MT or me or you or anyone that is honest enough to say HEY wait a minute whats the deal here?
I am cordial I am honest and careful not overtly offend anyone, but for trying to get all these people to play nice I was told to shut up and given a set of censorship rules to follow if I wanted to post on certain boards.
It is a fact that MT has TALENT. He builds his cars and sculpts his parts and does not appear to hurt anyone for blind greed or fame.
I thought I could make a difference and try to get all to play nice and be friendly but it is evident even to me being a good person that is careful and fair that there is a persecution going on and a flagrant cover up of defamation being conveyed to many people in an effort to ruin two people and take their position in the industry and clients.
You can try to play the middle, you can walk on egg shells as I did but in the end you will come to find that you will be pushed, insulted, harassed and your opinions learned and earned by study and observance will be deleted and sensored. I was where you are now, talking to all trying to stay fair minded and all that goes with it. The problem is that after you go through all that, receive insulting emails and attacks from people you have never met who clearly are in competition with Kory and Mark you simply have to at some point draw your conclusion as to who the real people are that are causing the problem, lieing to clients and causing all the trouble.
They claim it is Kory that is the problem but he has tried to defend himself and been shut down and ousted for it from these so called fair forums. They claim MT has crappy work and vehicles yet his cars are the ones making cross country trips being sought after for National commercials and who is being hired for projects for TV shows. So anyone seeking a build making your decision just be forwarned that a lot of unsavory and probably illeagle business practices are being intentionally perpetrated against Mark Towle simply for being who he is and having worked so hard and being the first in the industry to accomplish so much.
I hope you make headway Jim, I wish you the best in your sales and your business. The fact that you come to the boards and already are made to defend your good name and yourself is already a good indication to you as to what is and has been going on.
Take care, Scott
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More rants from Scott on 11/07 from other TV batboard
Dude you have a serious problem. Show your car or keep quiet. All people tell me the site designed and not yet live is the best they have ever seen. Any of the builders that said NO were given the opportunity and their sites frankly fall tremendously short of what we are designing and you know this as well as everyone. People just want to sell their cars and will say whatever they need to try to sell them even if it is untrue at times. The Butts body is still the only true Batmobile Kit and not an altered sculpt and if you would just do the research and the photographic overlays you would surely come to realize this. You have done no research you have done no overlays and precision comparisons of photos. You probably haven't even driven or flown out to meet any of the builders. I DID! I KNOW! I MADE A CHOICE SO your petty little comments against someone that has built the best 89 the best Batboat and the best sports version of the 66 with pure ignorance and hostility makes you an embarrassment to yourself. Whats your problem? Anyone that deals with MT is supposed to be banned correct? Well I have a car, because of MT! Show what you have? I am not a little computer guy. I am 5'11 200lbs and keep my home filled with live ammo and loaded guns, and can afford a plane ticket anywhere in the world or for anyone I choose to send so I really don't know what your problem is. What do you have that makes you such a winner? You don't have a car if you did you would show it.I like all the builders and have met and spent time with many of the builders. So beyond your cockeyed little threat or whatever you think you have going for yourself, I think you need to be careful who you threaten because many of us can afford to pay a visit to you unexpected and unforseen. Committing slander against a famous biker with heavy ties to some very bad people is not very smart either. I have no hidden agenda, what I do have is the most accurate Batmobile body available today! I am not a little man so take your insecurity and jealosy of other people's abilities and the god given right to freedom of speech and stuff it Drew. Nuff said. Scott
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Well Drew started it by blasting me first in email calling me a small loser hiding behind a computer just for saying I like the MTS Butts Kit so yeah I am not going to take any flack and I am glad he posted that. People rant and rave on the internet but lets all keep in mind that you attack people via a computer and I WAS ATTACKED with no provacation and not knowing who Drew is so Yeah Guys, he slammed me and I wrote back and anyones home address is accessible via the internet and tax records so keep your foul mouths out of my email. I do have loaded weapons in my home and I am not a small guy and I have no respect for ignorant bullies with an agenda that attack people they know nothing about nor have never met. Bigger Bullies like this got cracked in the back of the head on the school bus by me. After that happened a few times I was left alone. Cause they knew I could get them even if they were popular by raising themselves over others by humiliating them and calling them names. DOes it make you feel like someone Drew? Do you have a Batmobile NOW? Are you a Bigger person? Am I staying on topic? Getting tired of it. Drew! Why don't you post the pics of the car you claim to have instead of sending out slanderous and insulting emails to the innocent that are actually trying to be a Batmobile owner instead of a winey snot nosed two bit trouble maker. You can get my address off the web to but you better be armed when you come. Nuf said! Scott
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| Posted 4/7/2008 7:46:50 PM |
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You reap what you sow
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| Posted 4/7/2008 8:01:11 PM |
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Gotham Garage Defense Force
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| Posted 4/7/2008 8:19:53 PM |
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1. Does anyone know if Towel has a business license in CA?
2. Is he allowed to paint cars without having a vented booth? A complaint can easly be filed with the CAL EPA here:
http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/database/CalEPA_Complaint/index.cfm
3. Does he pax taxes on all the money he brings in being "#1"????
4. Does he carry workmans comp insuranze for his people?
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| Posted 4/7/2008 8:55:21 PM |
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| Oh... so now were "a collection of builders"? Is it an EVIL collective Mr. Powers? (Sorry, I just bought an E-type that I'm making into a Shaguar. Been doing that voice all week.) CLTC = Chicks Love the Collective Resistance is FUTILE! If we're all so damn evil and just out to slam others to get business, then how is it that MOST of us get along here? The BUILDERS who have MY back on this board include; Don, Jack, Jim, Tim and even Justin (when he's not being a Tardmonkey  ) Almost ALL of us here swap parts and pics (Jack likes pics) and info between ourselves. So, who's out to get sales by discrediting the other builders? Who calls each other's clients and tells them to get a refund on their project and buy from us. Who calls that practice "Just Business?" Oh wait... THAT WOULD BE THE TALENTLESS-CLOWNS from Gotham Garbage!
    
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!
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| Posted 4/7/2008 10:06:03 PM |
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"Tardmonkey of the Year"
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If you become a member and just in the slightest try to question or ask for proof of the claims they make against Kory or Mark you will see the results.
haha. Ask and you shall receive.... How about the several pages of pictures we have posted? Hell, we will post some more over the next few days, in fact. Hell, I am going to talk to DH about a new section on this forum (how about we call it the BLACKLIST or PROOF SECTION or something?) where we will do nothing but post pictures of MT's work against pictures of everyone else's work around here. Tell ya what - you can type until you are blue in the face, but LET'S SEE SOME PICTURES.
It has also been proven to me by my own attempts that these same people will block ban and delete anyone that tries to question the things they claim about Kory and Mark Towle only so thay can make money and get your business by defaming Kory and Mark Towle as they tried to get mine this way.
No, you got blocked for being a douchebag, not for asking for proof. Read through this thread - we are PROVIDING proof. To even suggest that we aren't is idiotic - where are YOUR pictures? Stop all the lip service, and get to posting some real evidence instead of theorizing about conspiracies all day long.
These people refuse to let Mark or Kory defend themselves on their pages as they would or should have a right to.
How many times have WE been the ones asking for proof, in THIS thread alone? We ask and we ask, and it never comes. Hell, we even had a thread for MT to discuss his work, and he was CONSTANTLY asked to post photo evidence of HALF the things those con artists claim - NO proof ever materialized. Here's a link:
http://www.chickslovethecar.com/board/Topic50706-12-1.aspx
Jack even offered to post the pictures on Mark's behalf! The only thing we eventually got, were some vague (and relatively distant) static shots from controlled angles of a shoddy museum piece (of which, the ACTUAL CURRENT OWNER is a member of this board, and has NOTHING positive to say about the construction of the car - READ: ACTUAL CUSTOMER OF MARK TOWLE'S, NOT COMPETING BUILDER - Oh, I'm sorry... You want more proof? http://www.chickslovethecar.com/board/Topic66814-12-4.aspx?Update=1).
I am 5'11 200lbs and keep my home filled with live ammo and loaded guns, and can afford a plane ticket anywhere in the world
This is my absolute favorite part.  For someone who talks so much about kindness and respect in this industry, and gang bullying tactics.... Haha. We don't even need to say much, here. Let's just allow these morons to show themselves for the bullshit artists - and Master LIE Fabricators that they are. They are doing a way better job than we EVER could. 
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| Posted 4/7/2008 11:35:48 PM |
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| For the record, DarkVigilante posted following message 2 or 3 nights ago Excuse me I just joined after reading this thread. I see above that you all are talking about someone that Builds Batmobiles and saying really bad things about them. Can you post proof for me to see? Are there any receipts court papers? Anything you can scan and post that proves what you are saying? What I think I see happening is many people ganging up on two people and I used to hate that in school and is exactly what Batman would have fought against. Are you people posting concerned individuals or simply competitors of the people you are putting down so badly? I am just curious. In High School I learned that it was the less fortunate that always banned together in jealousy to try and hurt others just to make themselves feel better. I am wondering what the case is here? Could any of you that posted please identify yourselves as builders or sellers of competition with the above people you are condemning? Please tell me if any or all of you are in the same business as the above slammed and if so why you would crawl so low as to hurt someone openly when I see you offering no substantial proof of any kind? I think this is very petty and self serving. I honestly do.
Just a guy that like Batman I banned the user b/c the same message was posted 3 times and I didn't want to have another flame war back and forth. And to top it off, the same person posted this in the comments area I have to say, I questioned your motives for posting such awful things about some people on this board and was immediately banned from the forum discussion for stating so. I have to conclude that this is only about taking business from someone and not about them being crooked or bad. Gosh if I was these guys I would have a team of attorneys on you all. I no longer wish to be a part of this board and I will go where some more decent honest people reside. It's shocking how lowly you all are. I am just someone that thought it horrible what I was seeing. Now I no longer wish to be here. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope you all get sued in Civil court for what I see happening here and you all loose everything you own to the people you persecute unfairly. But now that it doesn't matter anymore...FLAME ON!!! 
 
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