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 Posted 7/26/2005 3:48:21 PM |
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You reap what you sow
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| Posted 7/27/2005 3:52:20 AM |
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Nice pic DH!
Tim... The "second" thing I noticed was my pic in the background. The first being the car and the third that you were using foamboard. (Probably the fourth being that you shop was so damn clean. Don't know how you manage that one.) We call our glass room "La Playa del Fibreglass".
Jack... "how do you get those hot chicks to do all of your work for you?" It was the Fast and the Furious, man. After that movie, girls flocked to the shop to see the cars... without their boyfriends!!!! Hey, it's my money right? If I need people to work in the shop and I need to train them to do it my way anyway, all I'm really looking for is talent and ambition, skills really don't mean crap. So, if someone's gonna f#ck up in the shop, they might as well look cute doing it. Seems logical to me.
Before too long, I had an army of TunerChicks in the shop and MTV caught up with one of them at a car show showing off one of my cars,
If you don't recognize her from the earlier post (above) here's another pic of her while still staying on "bat" topic.  (See? Bet you didn't think I could do it.)
So they came to me about having her host a show called Tuners and we went for it. I wanted a bit more creative freedom and "TunerGirlz" was born.
Of course this meant that I had to start letting them dress like girls again. Usually they dress just as scrubby as we all do when we're working
But sometimes.... They still find a way to let you know they're girls.
 
"Heart attack" Jack? You can't imagine what they get into. That's what makes the show so great. One of the 17 year old kids on the crew blushed so bad last Thursday that he started choking.
DH... I'm reading over your requests
Not sure what you're asking me for in "Why can't you...?"
Number one reason is this... You're taking money out of WB's pocket. Average price per weekend appearance for an 89 is 8K plus expenses. You guys are not gonna spend 8 to 10 bucks at your local auto show to see the car if you can see one for free at a "Cruise night" or in downtown Carmel.
Reason two... If you drive your Honda Accord or Neon into a schoolbus, you'll make page 13 of your local paper in the police log. If you drive your 89 and do the same, you'll make the front page of every paper and TV newscast in America, and it'll say "BATMAN KILLS 20 SCHOOL CHILDREN!" WB doesn't need that kind of bad publicity, they already have Joel Schumacher.
"Who's Who...?"
"Anton Furst is the designer I guess.
And Jay Ohberg(?) is the one who had contract with WB to produce cars for Universal studios but lost later.
Then who's Mark Towles, Bob Butts and etc...? "
Actually... Barbara Ling is the designer. Anton was charged with the overall look and feel of the entire film, lighting, set decoration, props... everything. Individual details were left up to people like Barbara to pitch to Anton, then to Tim.
Jay? Covered that in a million posts. Very talented designer/builder, started in hot rods and jet cars back in the day. Used to work with George and the other "legends" of the 50's, customizers.
(YES, that is a 66 rollover bar template above my head)
He worked on more TV cars than anyone in the biz.
(OK, so all the photos in my office aren't exactly an original idea. As you can see, I even copied his style of picture frame)
When I was growing up. Jay was my hero. He made everything and created all kinds of out of this world cars. I was too young to be awestruck by George, the stuff he made seemed kinda "strange" to me and too 50's. Jay made cars with 5 engines, swimming pools, helicopters on the back, whatever. I thought that was cool.
And YES, Jay got the job for the first two Batman films and blew the third one by selling more cars out the back door without WB approval. They DID grab/destroy a bunch of his cars and never gave them back. But again, he made more cars then even they knew about. Jay is responsible for the existance of all of the 89's in private hands. ALL of your cars trace their creation back to Jay's molds. Even the "original" cars that go up for sale at auction by WB were created in some way by him personally.
He provides Bob Butts (the KING of 66 replicas without question! He's built 90% of the 66's out there.)with an 89 car (previously discussed)and Bob's people pull molds off of it and now you've got even more cars. I used his molds to make a car, then pulled a mold off my car and guess what? More cars. Robert gets Bob's molds and now we have 89's on the planet like fkn Tribbles. (Sorry, little ST geekness leaks out)
Jay looses the gig to Charlie Zurian and Kevin Pike over at TFX www.transfx.com (The amusing thing to me there is that they're resume' BEGINS with Batman Forever! Not bad huh? You carve up some stuff and get your first job and BAMM!!! it's Batman?. Weird. But super-talented guys non the less.
Like this shot? I took it with them in mind. 
They get the gig for both films.
In a final FU to WB. Jay gets his hands on the original Kilmer car and guess what? Splashes molds off that one too.
A set of 89 molds and a set of 95 molds are shipped to Australia when all the sh$t hits the fan. This is why you can get "original" 95's easier in Australia than you can in the states.
Now... Rods and Racers, Ted Walters... He's a chassis builder and racer that gets the gig adding chassis to and maintaining all the stunt cars that will be used in the SF shows. Jay ponies up all the 89 bodies and the rollers that get parked all around the country out in front of the rides. Ted's shop is located a few miles from our SF here in Jackson, NJ. Ted also gets the gig for the Begin's stunt show and the stunt Tumblers used in the film.
Those are the major players in the game who've come forward to claim responsibility for the cars. There are quite a few more very skilled people who were involved in the design and construction of the 89, but as they themselves have not elected to come forward. We must respect their privacy and not provide them with a ton of stalkers.
The rest of us are the "little fish". Guys who were doing other jobs and just had a like for the car ourselves. Most of what we've done is just so we could get our hands on a car ourselves. But money is money and when someone comes to you with 20K cash in hand... it's hard to say "No Thanks! I've got enough." A lot of us are either posting or lurking, you can ask each person for "their story".
OK DH... That's a lot for tonight, I'll read the rest tomorrow night and comment.
Nitro... "Forgive him Bat God Jack has a potty mouth." Oh yeah, I know that, I've talked to him on the phone. But he knows that so am I and that I'm a whore when it comes to girly-girls, so I HAVE to forgive him.
Timb... Nice car! That you?
You've emailed me a few times looking for an 89 and I gave you "The Speech". What's up? Not much more I can tell you unless I see a PayPal from you or you show up at the shop with 200 Benjamins. Which isn't likely, because I get a PayPal before I even disclose the location of the shop. Email me again if you've got something to say. But again... Nice car!
That's about it. Have to read more posts now. TTYL
    
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!
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| Posted 7/27/2005 5:17:08 AM |
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"Tardmonkey of the Year"
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Paul, that is not Tim B.'s replica. Check out this page:
http://www.thebatcave8k.com/tim_replica_pics.htm
He has a super cool scratch built car, but he rarely posts anything here. Every now and then he pops up, when the conversation baits him enough. And usually it is only brief, one line responses. Don't know too much more about the guy. He e-mailed me once about sending me more info, but he never did. I sent him a bunch of e-mails but just gave up on getting the details out of him.
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy... I recognize that hood up there! It is sitting on my patio, waiting for the rest of its family to arrive.  Thanks for all the pics, Paul!
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| Posted 7/27/2005 8:50:32 AM |
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Yipee-ki-yay...
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| Posted 7/27/2005 1:56:57 PM |
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Hey DH, can you add some sort of embedded sound file in the background of Club CLTC? Maybe something by Danny Elfman....
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| Posted 7/27/2005 1:59:09 PM |
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NO paul thats not my replica.but cool looking .nice chicks. now I now why you have no hair, you rubbed it all off on your headboard   
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| Posted 7/27/2005 2:04:47 PM |
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You reap what you sow
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Adding background music will probably kill this thread.
It will constantly have to start over everytime u reply or go to next page.
Only way to make it stream constantly is to use frames or pop up, but who wants those?
 
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| Posted 7/27/2005 7:17:22 PM |
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Has NO LIFE!!
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Average price per weekend appearance for an 89 is 8K plus expenses Why would anyone pay that when you can go see it at any of the museums in the "Visit the Batmobile" thread for less then $10? Also, I think if a replica hit a school bus hard enough to do any damage the replica would be in so many pieces you wouldn't recognize it anyway.
I would think that the WB should be happy to get all of the free advertisement. I know this website sure has made them a lot of money. Even I went out and bought all of the Begins figures, several 1/18th 89s, and will buy every Tumbler I see. Oh yeah then there is the 100+ Hot Wheels cars I bought.
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| Posted 7/27/2005 8:35:46 PM |
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Because everybody gets their cut. I used to get upwards of 4 to 5K a day for a car at a major show. I'd have to be there on Thursday night and set up for free to be ready the next morning. The venue paid for the hotel and travel and gave me a card to eat free at their exhibitor dining hall. I'd have to be there at 9AM and have the car manned continuously until 11PM, but there were some good times during the day.
Then you got to go party with the car show girls (If you didn't bring your own. )
Of which there were plenty.
You'd see them on their car.
You'd invite them to come sit in your car...
And you never know what's gonna happen next...
Then you go back in with a hangover on Saturday morning and do it all over again for a half day on Sunday. Once the last person left the arena, you jammed all your stuff in the trailer and everybody made a mad dash to get out of there as quick as possible.
But that's where the money is. No doubt about it. But everyone's fighting and bidding for the same shows all across the country and it can get pretty "tense" sometimes.
But why would people pay that?
The automanufacturers and dealers want you to spend your 10 or 15 bucks to come see the Batmobile. But the "star cars" are always located at the farthest place possible from the entrance. You, as a visitor, have to wade through a sea of dealers trying their best to sell you a Kia. They are the ones who pony up the serious cash for the latest and greatest movie car. Tens of thousands of people go to their local major shows each day, most of these people aren't going travel to any of the places on the "Visit" list, so this is their chance and the automakers know it.
That's why the big bucks.
But to play in this game, you need the most current and the nicest cars anyone's ever seen. They have to be perfect or no one's gonna buy them as "the original". And let's face it. No one is going to buy a ticket to a show to see a "replica" of the Batmobile.
Again... everyone gets their little piece.
Even WB...
You can show your car... and you can get a "license" to do it. But the average studio "permission" price PER EVENT (meaning each weekend) is usually 15K per car.
Big business... serious business.
but everyone plays the game. Even Kruse is "selling" their 89 for the 50th time at their auction on Aug 9,10 & 11 in NYC on Pier 92. Do you think the owners of this car "hate" it so much they need to sell it every 6 months?
Nope... just that it's good for publicity for the auction.
That's why Jack.
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
He MAKES them you idiot!
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| Posted 7/27/2005 8:46:35 PM |
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Awesome photos and post BatGod.
So have there been anyone who got into trouble with their batmobiles beside the forementioned Jay Ohberg?
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