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Posted 11/9/2018 6:57:07 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
Received an email asking,
"I am single, can afford to put 300.00 a month into a tumbler build, but I don't have the funds to buy all the expensive special tools I would need. Any advice for a new want to be bat mobile builder?"

First, join chickslovethecar.com and read all the forum postings.

Start a build log and post about why you want to build a Bat Vehicle and how you plan to build it.
Follow up with postings about your building space.
Forget about spending your 300.00 a month on "expensive special tools" and spend it on materials when possible. So, what about tools.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.

As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
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Posted 11/9/2018 7:15:15 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part One
Identify the material you plan to make your parts from: metal, fiberglass, etc.
I my case that is steel.
Ask yourself, "What are the minimal effective tools I can make my parts with?
Power drill with 2 hole saws, 1/8" drill bit, and 1/4" drill bit.
Reciprocating saw with metal cutting blade.
Metal cutting circular saw.
Metal grinder.
Flat and triangle file.
36" steel/aluminum ruler
Note: If one is really short on money they could save a lot of money by buying corded tools.


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Posted 11/9/2018 10:34:52 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part Two
Draw life size pattern on card stock. (for small parts card stock works fine as a pattern)
If your part is bigger than a sheet of card stock transfer your pattern to 1/4" plywood.
Cut of the plywood pattern.
Drill 1/8" holes in pattern to mark pilot holes for hole saw cuts.
Clamp wood pattern to metal and draw pattern on metal.
Use pattern to drill 1/8" holes through metal for hole saw pilot drill locations.
Un-clamp wood pattern and set aside.


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Posted 11/9/2018 10:41:04 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
Posts: 3,232, Visits: 5,166
Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part Three
Use 1/4" pilot bit from hole saw to enlarge 1/8th holes to 1/4".
Make hole saw cuts before cutting any other straight or curved lines.


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Posted 11/9/2018 10:53:00 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
Posts: 3,232, Visits: 5,166
Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part Four
Use a ruler or straight edge to lengthen straight lines of pattern.
Use metal cutting circular saw and reciprocating saw to cut all straight lines of parts.
A close look at photo-images reveals that 95% of the bracket part was cut with simple straight cuts.


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Posted 11/9/2018 10:58:53 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part Five
Use grinder and files to make radius and finish bracket parts.


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Posted 11/9/2018 11:12:40 PM
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Last Login: 12/4/2023 11:08:55 PM
Posts: 3,232, Visits: 5,166
Placed a copy of this post here for anyone planning to and/or actually building a Bat Vehicle.
When you think about tools start thinking and using the minimalist approach.
As an example: In my next few build posts I will use a minimalist approach to make a few parts for my Tumbler's nose cone weapons pod.
Part Six
Cutting flat angled parts.
Draw pattern full-size on card stock.
Draw on steel around pattern.
Extend all straight lines with ruler or straight edge.
Use metal cutting circular saw to cut all straight lines.

These two angled parts were cut in about an hour.
Note: These techniques used here with a few changes can be used to cut materials other than metal such as fiberglass, plastic, foam, etc.


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Posted 11/13/2018 7:13:43 PM
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WAERZENGINEER
"So, I'm interested... which stuff are you using a plasma cutter on, and which stuff are you using abrasives on to cut?
First up, I always use good eye protection and an NP100 dust mask.
Grinding and cutting with abrasives fill the air with micro-particle of silicone and other abrasives, as well as fiberglass and metal particles that can be very damaging to your lungs in surprisingly after a short period of exposure.

Use to run a plasma torch to cut a lot of my steel parts but now I use metal cutting circular saws to do 95% of my metal cutting. Metal cutting circular saws are four times as fast as a plasma torch and leave near perfect edges that require only a quick pass with a file to break the sharp edge. Rarely use an abrasive cut off wheel except for hardened rusted bolts, etc.

My "friend" just gave me an estimate for water jetting some of my batpod parts and now I think anyone could definitely justify investing in a plasma cutter for a tumbler project, or better yet, a CNC machine with the possibility of attaching a plasma torch to it.

Seems to me, financially...
Bandsaw < Plasma Cutter < CNC Plasma < Outsourced < Replacement Cutoff Wheels / Sawzall Blades
What do you guys think? It all depends on how much money you have. If you make a lot of money you might pay for almost everything to be done. Unless, you like to do it all yourself. Not enough money, you can do most everything yourself and spend your limited funds on materials and hand power tools. Or, some place in between.

P.S. anyone else scared sh!tless of using those thin cutoff wheels on an angle grinder? One snapped once while I was cutting off an exhaust stud on "Kimmy" and it lodged into the sideskirts... Luckily, I was wearing contact lenses and the time, so my eyes were protected".
CONTACT LENS WOULD NOT HAVE SAVED YOUR EYE(S) IF A PIECE THAT SIZE HAD STRUCK YOUR EYE(S). A TINY SPLINTER OF METAL OR PARTICLE OF THE GRINDING CUTOFF WHEEL CAN EASILY PENETRATE THE NON-SHIELDED HUMAN EYE.

I have had abrasive wheels come apart in my angle grinder. I usually do my cutting when using an angle grinder with my leather welding jacket and leather welding gloves on wearing a full face shield. vertigo
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Posted 11/21/2018 5:07:16 PM


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Hey Vertigo-

"Nonshielded"??? ... They were presription lenses

That is 100% a joke... not sure if my sarcasm came through in my post... but we did have a kid in university HONESTLY say that he didn't need safety glasses because he was wearing contacts.... I'm pretty sure he graduated with a degree in Mechanical Engineering just like the kid who didn't know "Lefty-Loosey, Righty-Tighty" yet graduated Magna Cum Laude.

Oh well... neither of those people are building Batmobiles!

I researched the metal cutting circular saws... they far exceeded what I was expecting. How often do you go through blades?

Also, what is your opinion on blade depth vs material thickness?

Thanks!

-Adam


-Waz
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Posted 11/21/2018 6:30:24 PM
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hey WAERZENGINEER,
"I researched the metal cutting circular saws... they far exceeded what I was expecting. How often do you go through blades? Also, what is your opinion on blade depth vs material thickness?
Thanks! -Adam Waz
I run my saws with max blade depth. Blade too shallow will cause the blade teeth to work much harder and wear much quicker due to the angle of attack of the teeth.
I use two metal cutting circular saws for the best economy.
Note: mild steel only-trying to cut through a weld will dull blade almost immediately.

Milwaukee 7" saw cost about 300.00 99% of my cutting.
Diablo metal cutting blades cost 30.oo each
I get 30-feet of cutting 1/4" plate or 60-feet of cutting 1/8" plate or 10-feet of cutting 1/2" plate, etc.,etc,
I use a 2" wide X 3/8" metal flat as a straight edge saw guide. Without a saw guide your blade economy will drop 50-70%. With a slow feed of the saw you can cut up to 1/4" steel fairly continuously. 1/2-steel you can cut for 2-minutes and then must let the saw sit for 15-minutes. If you place the saw in a holder and let it free run for 4-minutes you can cut at a ratio of 2-minutes cutting: 4-minutes free running saw.

Dewalt 20V Battery 5-1/2" metal cutting saw 1% of my cutting (mostly making inside cuts)
5-1/2" Diablo/Dewalt blades 30.00 each 30% of the full size blade economy vertigo
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