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Mounted a 44" Super Swamped with a method used by some off roaders and many others to mount tires.
This is not a method recommended by anyone due to the danger and liability issues associated with the method. Most use the disclaimer: For Informational Purposes Only.
The story of my experience with this method is not a recommendation for its use. Though my experience turned out well, the method is dangerous by definition.
Used this method today to mount one of my Super Swamper tires on a test steel rim.
Tried it with the tire standing up but gas blow by prevented the bead from seating.
When I laid the tire on it's side the method worked like a charm.
Sprayed approximately 2 ounces of starter fluid past the unseated bead around inside the tire.
Waited a couple of minutes to allow the liquid starter fluid to vaporize.
Then put a wadded up piece of paper on the end of an eight foot section of old conduit.
Set the paper on fire and held the flame near the unseated bead.
Poof, as almost in slow motion the tire inflated from the expanding gases and the beads seated perfectly.
Note: One off road site reminded its viewers to make sure a valve stem was seated in the steel wheel to hold the gas pressure inside to hold the beads in place.
Many off road sites also remind their viewers to never lean over the tire/wheel and to always set off the starter fluid ignition with a flame at the end if a long piece of steel rod or pipe.
I inflated the tire to 25 PSI and took all the relevant measures to use in determining the appropriate dually spacing. vertigo
Mounting tires with starter fluid.
Here is a YouTube video for mounting the 44" inch Super Swamper with starter fluid.
Exploding Super Swamper Mount
TheJhall87
There are thousands of videos that show the starter fluid method to mount all kinds of tires on line.
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| Posted 8/19/2017 8:14:25 PM |
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Finally found some time to work on my Tumbler.
Today I worked on building the U-shaped upper shocks and
actuators integrated mounting and frame assembly.
Cut and welded up the horizontal core frame assembly from 3' X 3" x 3/16" square tubing and the two long lead pieces from 2" x 2" x 1/4 wall tubing.
Will continue on this area for awhile.
Use 2” X 2” X ¼” wall tubing to build U-shaped upper shocks and
actuators integrated frame assembly.
Cut and weld 2” X 2” x ¼” wall tubing lower support assembly for
U-shaped upper shocks and actuators integrated frame assembly.
Construct and mount proxy shocks between GM 14-bolt axle shock mounts
and U-shaped upper shock mounts on actuators integrated frame
assembly.
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| Posted 8/20/2017 6:48:31 PM |
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| As always, great to see your workmanship.
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| Posted 8/20/2017 8:06:43 PM |
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hey sly,
Thanks for the kind words.
The original Tumbler builders made the parts I'm working on from 1-1/2 tubing. The body was made from carbon fiber resin panels. My panels are 1/4 inch thick steel. So, having to make mine from 2" x 2" x 1/4 inch wall tubing.
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| Posted 8/20/2017 9:24:39 PM |
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1/4 in thick steel panels would seem to be massive overkill, and a massive increase in weight.
Why would they need to be that thick?
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| Posted 8/21/2017 1:41:37 AM |
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Vertigo - congratulations on your steady progress! I too plan to do a tumbler build in the not too distant future as a retirement project and your detailed account will prove invaluable. For now, I will live vicariously through you! Keep the updates coming!
Billy
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| Posted 8/21/2017 7:08:26 PM |
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Thanks for the kind words WFP.
Welcome to the forum.
I will look forward to seeing your build.
vertigo
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| Posted 8/21/2017 7:26:33 PM |
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Today I continued to work on building the U-shaped upper shocks and
actuators integrated mounting and frame assembly.
Specifically, on the long lead pieces and the U shaped bend.
It would take a huge hydraulic bender a very high strength dies to be able to bend 2" x 2" x 1/4" wall square tubing. Since this type of bender and dies are not available to me I am using an old school method to fabricate the U-bend. Basically I have separated the four sides and bending planes of this part. This way I only have to work with one direction of bending force at a time. I completed the upper and lower planes that included the U -Bend shape curves. For the inside and outside curves I will cut two flats 1-1/4" wide and 1/4" thick. I will then use an acetylene/Oxygen rosebud tip to heat these flats up and then work these around the inside and outside curves. Then weld these to complete the U-Bend square tubing. This method can be used for anything similar.
Will continue on this area for awhile.
Use 2” X 2” X ¼” wall tubing to build U-shaped upper shocks and
actuators integrated frame assembly.
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| Posted 8/22/2017 8:27:47 PM |
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| Did you cut those with the torch?
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| Posted 8/22/2017 11:58:09 PM |
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Good to see the progress Vertigo. I am glad that i went with fireglass for my project as weight is definitely the enemy with one of these tumbler builds. My tumbler is a shade over 2 tonnes with a lot of weight in the wheels adapters and front arms although lucky it is quite evenly spread. I think with a project its a fine balance between a strong over engineered build and a functional easy to manage car. Also something to think about is how you plan to transport it. I have purchased a hgv lorry which i have had to modify heavily it requires a special category on my licence and i am limited by the weight i can carry and the width. It takes me roughly 45 mins to an hour to unload the car fit the outside wheels and set it up if i take it to a show.
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