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Posted 12/15/2013 7:20:20 PM |
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Street Legal
I'm getting closer to working on a tumbler build however I'm some what torn on building a full scale or street legal. I would like to go street legal size and by that I mean the width of the tumbler would need to be 8ft 6in for my area. I tried to scale the tumbler down proportionally to the width I need however several issues arise. The biggest problem is the interior height. The seats are practically on the floor to begin with so it leaves even less head room. The second method I tried was simply scaling the width of the car so it is some what skinnier. Looks wise it seemed to be ok it didn't have a super skinny look (8ft 6in is still pretty wide) especially when you don't have the real car to compare to. The next problem is the interior width for the engine. When looking at the vehicle it doesn't look like there is much room for the engine.
Full Scale
The problem with full scale is I would like to hop in the vehicle and go for a ride without restrictions. I live just outside of town and the highway more often then not has cops. I'm not sure if they would pull me over or not. County cops seem to be ok but the state patrol is less forgiving. I'm not sure what the fine is for driving an unlicensed / unregistered car especially if god for bid someone T-Boned the vehicle in an accident.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Posted 12/15/2013 11:40:31 PM |
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The cake is a lie.
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I would scale down the vehicle until it meets the allowed requirements then alter some of the measurements in less noticeable areas to recoup that interior room lost. As an example you could extent the firewall out a few inches, drop the floorpan slightly, and move the partition between the powerplant and interior aft.
Do I look like someone with a plan? 0_o
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Posted 12/16/2013 10:53:34 PM |
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Good to see others out there wanting to go the road legal route. Currently I only scaled the vehicle width so it has the same amount of length maybe a little bit less height. However losing 10 inches in width is hard to make up. The vehicle doesn't look to bad being trimmed down width wise. Scaling proportionately I don't think the interior would have enough height. I know the "Gumball Tumbler" was made road legal however I'm not sure what the final width of there tumbler was.
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Posted 2/4/2014 3:14:51 PM |
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Looks like I'm going to try the Street legal version of the tumbler. And by street legal I'm really referring to altering the width and length of the Tumbler to meet the requirements of my state. For anyone looking to go the same route please let me know. I would be curious to see what dimensions you plan on using or how you plan on scaling the tumbler or what your thoughts are. Again the biggest problem I ran into was the height of the ceiling. In my design I scaled the width down to just under 8Ft 6in and the length a little bit and made some adjustments else where. My tumbler will have a little higher roof line but it still should look close enough. The reason I posted this is because I'm at the point where I have started modeling interior as I have modeled the exterior first and everything is dependent upon the outside dimensions.
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Posted 2/4/2014 3:48:45 PM |
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Hey stevo, I suffered through your same problem. I wanted both a street legal Tumbler and a full size Tumbler. After I accepted that re-proportioning would not solve my desires I decided to build a movie correct Tumbler and modify it with modular add ons for when I wanted street legal. I knew I was going to build the body using a blended seam modular design. Why? Because, I didn’t want to go the 5/6ths scale route and I thought about the modified Gumball Tumbler but something told me that I would not be satisfied with either. To have both, where street legal and movie correct collide I am designing plug/bolt on modular body units, one set modified/minimally altered for street legal and another set for movie correct. Best way I have come up with so far unless one wanted to take modular construction really deep towards the centerline. One could use stretch out methods with telescoping modules, even make them power actuated. Just a matter of money and time. What can be conceptualized can be realized. vertigo
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Posted 2/5/2014 9:09:22 AM |
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Hey stevo, When I replied to your post yesterday I could not remember the name for telescoping parts like the slide outs in RVs that move out when the RV/trailers are parked to make more room. The engineering term is mechanical morphing. Hollywood uses mechanical morphing in the phyiscal transformations/conversions seen often in movies. Not nearly as much since CGI effects became possible. After studying this for a while last night I can say that it is entirely possible to build a Tumbler that could transform from the drivers seat between movie correct and street legal with the flip of a switch or two, more if you wanted transformation to occur in a pausing sequence. So the conceptualization is valid leaving only the realization. Realization would require engineering not really all that complex but time consuming to build. vertigo
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Posted 5/26/2014 11:37:32 AM |
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Posted 5/27/2014 8:24:27 AM |
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Hey batmanstumbler, Welcome to Tumbler building and good luck on your build. When do you plan to begin your physical build? vertigo
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Posted 10/6/2014 10:44:52 PM |
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hey guys,
if i'm to build a full scale, would someone be nice enough to help me with the 3d model, im kinda having major problems.
kind regards
batfreak11308
I love the Tumbler
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Posted 10/7/2014 4:22:28 PM |
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You will want to talk to Shaggy about a 3D model for the tumbler. I think he is selling blueprints to the one he built as well. I have spent well over a hundred hours on my 3D model alone and it still isn't as close as I need it to be. The Tumbler is incredibly difficult to model due to its angles. Definitely not something offered for free. The nice thing about working with the 3D model though is it does help to get to know the inside and outside of the tumbler and how everything comes together as well as if you need to make some changes to the physical build you can make the changes to the model first. You won't find to many accurate models online. Some look close but are constructed with a mesh and not surface modeled the way Sketchup creates models. Many of the ones I have found online have to many flaws and the model is not usable which led me to start building my own....
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