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Posted 9/7/2007 11:25:46 AM


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its because you are basing yours off the movie car, instead of modifying the looks from the original, dont take me wrong tho, BWD's build is SUPER AWESOME, i love it, but Jarret wants to go for the original look, just like the movie car.  i showed him pictures of your mocked up frame out of wood, and we have been studying it to draw out a schematic for an underlying chassis to begin his build.



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Posted 9/18/2007 2:41:40 PM


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i had a brain fart the other day, and im just curious, you did say a Buick's v6 turbocharged, are you reffering to the one out of a buick grand national?

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Posted 9/19/2007 6:09:21 PM


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Yes...I was thinking about that one. except only:

A. Very hard to find someone that wants to get rid of that

B. Not very many of them around

C. Forum members questioned the torque. Great for speed, but how will that do running (4) 37" or larger super swampers? I DO remember you saying I had room for an 8!!

So I obviously am still learning about the best motor to use. I've got lots of time to think about it as I get closer to getting started on the chassis. Still waiting to get the right tools, no more half-assing. If I have to wait a little longer to get the right tube bender & notcher, no problem. (stupid bills!)



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Posted 9/19/2007 7:52:46 PM


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Personally I think you should go with a 302 or a 350 (I'm leaning to the 350) Because there are cheaper to build and have tons of after market parts. They really aren't that big either. A turbo V6 with all the turbo plumbing will probably take up just as much room if not more room than a small block V8.
Stick a 400 crank in a 350 and get a 383ci stroker

I posted a tubing bender I found on another thread. [url=http://www.chickslovethecar.com/board/Topic63309-6-1.aspx][/url]


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Posted 9/19/2007 8:26:17 PM


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Thanks bean, much obliged. I'm seeing a bunch of older cars with 350's all over craigs list NY...you're right they're much more accessible and look easy to find. So you said:

"Stick a 400 crank in a 350 and get a 383ci stroker"

um....huh? does this mean I get more bang (HP) and power if I use a 400 crank? and I Think the 383"ci" is cubic inches but what's the 400 number?

I'm clearly a novice with engines. you guys are my teachers and I'm your humble student. I know by the time I get to the engine part of my build I'll know more. Lot's of reading and listening to do.

Thanks again!



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Posted 9/19/2007 8:56:15 PM


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Hey Conrad,  I just have to give my two cents.  With the use of a 400 crank you will get a 383.  The reason is the crank is shorter where the connecting rod which is connected to the piston at the other  end .  Now it will allow the piston to go further down and give you more displacement.  The diplacement is the area within the combustion chamber. A 350 has 350 cubic inches of displacement by putting on that 400 crank you raise the displacement to 383 cubic inches.  Its considered a cheap upgrade but I would say it does have disadvantages.  To me sticking with a four bearing 350 with the original shaft is the way to go.  The four bearings is considered superior to a three bearing because it gives more support to the crankshaft. 

As I mentioned before I am a great supporter of buying the engine in a donor car or truck.  That way you can hear and see it run and  its not damaged.  Putting on the aftermarket stuff could be done anytime. 

I wish I could be there as you take off the original exhaust and add Flowmaster mufflers and headers. Suddenly the engine comes alive. Install an Edlebrock carb and intake manifold and again a surge in power.  Install an electronic distributor with a power coil and again hear the roar.....  These engines can be found in trucks, Station wagons Grandmas cars. 

Or just go American exotic and put a 500 cubic inch Cadillac engine.  Not only high horsepower but incredible torque and how many old 70s Cadillac do you see running around town.  Low mileage high untapped horse power. And they have Turbo 400 transmissions to boot.  That transmission is considered bulletproof.  BWD

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Posted 9/19/2007 9:11:32 PM


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As always Dave, thanks for the 2 cents. Sometimes words from experience are worth much much more.


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Posted 9/19/2007 11:07:40 PM


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BWD definitely knows more than me. I think that there were some tanks that were run by the Cadillac 500, so that should drive a Tumbler with no problem.
a Ford 460 with a C6 trans is a pretty bullet proof combo too, if you go big block.


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Posted 9/20/2007 2:09:10 AM


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Hey Chilibean, thanks for the kudos I just happen to look up the horsepower ratings on those two engines, the Cadillac 500 and the Ford 460.  Since I have a Cadillac 500 cubic inch engine in the Tumbler I'd like to pointout in 1970 a factory fresh engine produced 400hp while the introduction of the 1973 Ford 460 produced 202 hp.  Big difference so it shows that big displacement does not always equal big horse power.  Hey if you need any additional information on motors during those years just ask.

 Even the 1970 Chevy 350 producd between 250-360 horsepower depending on the application. If your not into engines just ignore me.  I'm ok with that I know I'm a little goofy...BWD

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Posted 9/20/2007 8:06:57 AM


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As to back up what BWD said, Chevy small bocks are a hell of a lot cheaper to buy new and aftermarket parts for, fairly easy to repair, and and parts are far more plentiful than any other engine out there on the market.

Another thing to simplify for you is to explain a 383 stroker to a person who doesnt know much about engines, imagine a bolt you are trying to torque down on, a small handled wrench will only allow you to put but SO MUCH torque on it, now imagine that same bolt BUT with a LONGER length on the torque wrench, you are capable of putting far more torque on that same bolt, but with no extra strength really required,  when people reffer to the "stroke" of the engine, this is where that comes into play, a "long stroke" engine will have FAR more torque, (but less high rpm's) and a "short stroke" engine will have vice-versa. 

Just thought i would throw my half penny idea in on this   AND on the note of the Buick Grand National, my friend Jarret that i meantioned earlier said that his "female friend" in Iowa is planning (or was) to sell their Grand National.  But honestly given everything that has been said, a "stroked" V8 would probably be more up your line of things.   Wouldnt matter if it was a 305, 327, 350, or a stroked 383.  

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