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Posted 7/19/2005 6:22:22 PM


You reap what you sow

You reap what you sow


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Yeah you don't want to end up like this guy!
He was 75% complete with his car before he went

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Post #33375
Posted 7/19/2005 6:29:46 PM
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Ok so unibody is out. And sounds like the flip flop paint is what is on all these "hoopties" you see riding around playing loud spanish music, so that's out unless I'm misunderstanding something there. How do you take something like a huge 4 door caprice and make it where the interior is pushed to back of car to give it the 89 look? Weren't the insides of those huge? Why is it not easier to start with some sort of 2 door sports car that already has a longer front end then rear? Everyone says go caprice or impala, but still haven't had anyone explain why it's easier to use a 4 door with huge interior that you have to make look smaller then it is to use a 2 door sports car that already has smaller interior and is located towards back of vehicle? And for everyone telling me to slow down and maybe in a few years I'll be smart enough to do fiberglass and such... thanks, it's those comments that keep the fire lit under me and make me learn things so much faster. I appreciate those of you who answer my questions and even go the extra distance to explain why it is that I can or can't use such method. I learn so much from you guys. I'm not just some idiot wanting a Batmobile, I'm trying to learn all I can about fiberglass and doing custom cars/interiors so that maybe someday I can start my own business. I have purchased over $300 in books and videos on the subject, so I ask questions not because I'm to lazy to find out on my own, but because even after reading about it I like to hear what some guys that have been doing it for years have to teach me. Teach me being the key there, not "I like to ask questions so that people can tell me I don't know what I'm doing". I'm working on A+ and HTI+ certifications right now... along with getting my general contractors and electrical contractors lincense. I'm 24 years old with an IQ that is at top of charts (being tested by MENSA in about a week) and more drive to be successful and be known for my work then most ten people my age. The way I see things is that if anyone else was able to learn how to do something, then I should be able to learn it too. I currently talk to doctors and scientist about genetic theories, electronic and neurological combinations, and other topics I found amazing so I read everything I could get my hands on until I was able to talk to people that have been researching it for years. I love learning new things... it keeps my mind busy.. so when I ask questions I want someone to answer that is willing to encourage people to learn, not tell them they're not capable of doing it and to not even dream about it for another couple years until you have lots more experience. Teach me, don't tell me I'm not ready. I know I'm not ready yet... otherwise I wouldn't be asking questions and would have car in garage. If you came to me and asked "how do I create movies using flash" I wouldn't say "whoa... slow down.. first you need to learn how to make simple pictures, then in a few years you might be able to make a full movie". Instead I would say "let's sit down and I'll show you step by step how to do it, and once you understand all the complex stuff you'll be able to learn the easy stuff ten times quicker." Sorry for ranting... its just I've never had any positive support from any of my family or extended family, so when people tell me "well you don't know what you're doing" it kinda pisses me off. People are always coming to me for answers but when I say I'm wanting to learn something new they treat me like I'm out of my mind for wanting to learn something new. I guess when people ahve one dream its ok and people will support you, but if you want to learn how to do everything like I do (contractor, electrician, computer repair, home automation, fiberglass, and special effects like in movies) people don't treat you like you're capable of doing it for some reason. Anyways sorry guys, just had a bad day because the business I just started is having problems with distributers. Even though I'm always busy I want to learn something new.
Post #33376
Posted 7/19/2005 9:44:00 PM


DH was once A mail order bride...............

DH was once A mail order bride...............


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I am to lazy to read all that, cliff notes please.
Post #33377
Posted 7/19/2005 10:49:40 PM


Has NO LIFE!!

Has NO LIFE!!


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Jonhunt, chill out no one is saying that you can't do it. What everyone (including me) is saying is that you have to learn how to walk before you can run. As hard as it is for me to admit, sometimes your elders do in fact know best. Tim at www.1989batmobile.com has been building a 1989 Batmobile Go-cart from scratch for about a year now. He like you loves to learn, lives for knowledge and loves the 89 Batmobile. He started small just for practice and to increase his knowledge base. The same goes for RJ with his 1/4 scale 89 Batmobile. I jumped into my project with both feet and now 3 years later I still have an unfinished project. I think Kevin has been working on his for 5 years and Nitro is up to 3 or 4 years. It takes time (unless you're Mark Towle, DonC, or BATGOD).

Now to answer your question about 2 door sports car vs. 4 door battle wagon. I only used the frame and suspension from my donor car. I made the firewall and all of the floors out of steel. Nitro did the same. Kevin did use some of his donor cars floors but had to custom make a lot of his floors and firewall. If you do it that way you can position the seats, steering column, and pedals to your liking. Another replica builder used a Vette and it looks to me like his seats are back to far and because he used the donor cars floor and firewall he can't change the seat position (that's the way it looks in the pictures).

If I were to build a car from scratch here's what I would do. I would get a full frame car like an Impala, Caprice, Caddy, etc (No trucks, no sub-frames, and no unibody). I would then lengthen it to the needed length. Next I would get the wheels and tires that I want to use and mount them on the car. I would then set up the suspension. Then I would build a wood frame mock up of the car, add the foam board and start sculpting.

Now something you really need to know is that this can be very expensive. I've been told it's cheaper to just hand over $10,000 for a body kit then it would be to sculpt a body from scratch. If I were you and really wanted to build a Batmobile from scratch I would build one of the Animated cars. Why? Well because it's not been done and you could probably make your money back selling kits to guys like me. Anyway good luck.



Post #33378
Posted 7/19/2005 10:53:06 PM
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Cliff notes:
1. I'm borderline genius... MENSA is testing me in about a week.
2. Due to really high IQ it pisses me off when people talk to me like I'm not capable of doing something.
3. I get that all the time from people locally, "you can't do that, you can't do this", these are same people that ask me for answers anytime they have problems, but when I want to learn something new all of a sudden I'm not smart enough or not capable.
4. I feel that if someone else has learned something then I can learn it too, but I like to start with hardest project first because if I can accomplish it then nothing is left to stop me.
5. I appreciate those of you that answer the questions I have and explain why it is what it is, instead of telling me "whoa.. maybe in a few years you'll be able to do that"
6. If one of you came to me wanting to talk about genetic theory, electronic neuro-connections, or just wanting to make a really indepth Flash movie file for internet I would never say "reality check... first you need to figure out how to take a picture ... then maybe I'll answer how to make an interactive video clip"
7. I have spent lots of money on books and videos... and have read every single post on this entire forum so when I ask question its not because I'm lazy, its because I want to learn. So don't tell me I'm not ready to learn what I'm asking, just teach me something new. I'll try to never ask the same questions I've seen before.
8. I like to learn anything I possible can, I'm studying for A+ exam, HTI+ certification, general contractors exam, and electrical contractors exam all at same time. Fiberglass is just one more thing that I would like to know how to do, and I choose (like with everything else I've done), to find the biggest badest project and kick it's ass first. Then all other projects are a breeze.

Sorry for sounding like an asshole, if some of you don't want to answer my quetions then just don't answer, but please don't talk to me like I'm not capable of doing something. I might not understand why it can't be done the way I'm thinking about it, but that's why I'm learning. Talk to me about why it won't work. Thanks for anyone who supports me asking questions and is willing to teach me something new. Jon Hunt
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Posted 7/19/2005 11:06:57 PM
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Thank you Jack. I really appreciate you help. And sorry for going nuts before. I just get a little (ok, a lot) pissy when it seems like someone is telling me I'm not able to do something. I've been told my whole life I'm not capable of doing this or that, but as soon as someone has a question its me they come running to and it pisses me off. So once again, sorry for being ass before. I appreciate all the knowledge you guys share with me.

Ok, so new idea then. If not using a camaro body, what about a 1979-83 cadillac eldorado?

It has the super long front end and is really wide. I plan to put hydraulic suspension so I can raise car to go over speed bumps or to not scrape front on certain inclines. What do you guys think about hydraulic suspensions?

I don't plan on making custom firewall, or moving seats around, which is why I want to stick with a 2 door sporty kinda car. The old cadillacs look perfect to me.
Post #33380
Posted 7/19/2005 11:10:36 PM
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uploaded two images... one called hoopty and another called hoopty2 but don't know how to make them show up.

http://www.chickslovethecar.com/images/uploaded/71920052360hoopty.bmp

http://www.chickslovethecar.com/images/uploaded/719200523621hoopty2.bmp

Post #33381
Posted 7/19/2005 11:13:13 PM
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Sorry for being such a dick before guys. Had really bad day dealing with distributers. I get kinda touchy when I think people are saying I'm not capable of something. Sorry again.

Jon Hunt

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Post #33382
Posted 7/19/2005 11:27:10 PM


DH was once A mail order bride...............

DH was once A mail order bride...............


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This car does provoke passion . Who said that is a bad thing? Speak your mind .
Post #33383
Posted 7/19/2005 11:30:17 PM


Has NO LIFE!!

Has NO LIFE!!


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Okay no more being an ass or a dick! The floor and firewall are really some of the easy stuff. After you have your body you can make templates out of cardboard and then have your local metal shop replicate them in metal or you could make it all out of plywood and cover it in fiberglass or even just make them out of fiberglass. By the time you have the body built you will be a fiberglass guru. Also sounds to me like you need to drink a few beers and kill off a few of those brain cells.

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