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Posted 3/23/2017 8:37:44 PM
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hey sly,
"Keep trying to squeeze even the tiniest possible time on it mate if you stop you can loose momentum very easily. Looks great." paulwayne

I agree with paulwayne. I've only averaged one hour per day on my physical building for the past 3-years. Doesn't sound like much but that is nearly 1100 hours. Wives, girlfriends, children, etc.all take a lot of time. Sometimes I get my daily hour's worth, 15 minutes at a time, over a day. I keep a few 3 x 5 cards in my pocket to write down my summary ideas. There is a lot of dead time in most people's lives. Through practice one can learn to use these periods for thinking about things that we consider more productive. Like planning and building Bat Vehicles.
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Posted 3/23/2017 8:46:05 PM


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Based on my collective research and study, so far, of the Batman v
Superman Batmobile it appears the easiest way to build this Bat
Vehicle with the least amounts of man hours and expense is to build
the body first completely in wood.


I like your way of thinking on this.

The next step is to find a donor vehicle, with the title, could be a
car but most likely a truck, conforming closely to logical body
attachment points.
Yes, definitely a possibility. I think it is important to make the frame match the car via stretching or whatever other means are needed. Otherwise you could wind up with a pretty skewed version of the car like these guys did. http://www.chickslovethecar.com/board/Batmobile_Topic153483-4-1.aspx

After acquiring a suitable donor vehicle, one would probably fabricate
a frame around the donor vehicle that matches the bottom edges of the
wood body and weld in additional braces as needed.
From my study of how the original car was put together I believe this is actually what they did. The body doesn't sit directly on the chassis but is supported by separate connection brackets. You can see it on some of the stills extracted from the special feature video.

Once the wood body fits on the donor vehicle frame then the builder
will ............ remove the wood body and translate it into steel or other materials
with the end result being a bolt on body, probably with a few modules,
that can be taken, on or off, at will.
In the back of my mind I still have the idea of using parts of this build as forms for Fiberglass molds. One advantage of that is they would then be reproducible. These side boxes are a great example. I think it would be quite easy to produce a set of molds from these.

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Posted 3/24/2017 1:39:01 PM


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Finished the other rear box today.

Front view:

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Rear view:

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Next week I'll start working on attaching them to the car. I think I may play around with the front after that. Starting to think about beginning actual construction as I think most of my major questions have been worked out.
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Posted 3/25/2017 7:26:31 PM
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"Starting to think about beginning actual construction as I think most of my major questions have been worked out." sly

So, does this mean a donor vehicle, from scratch frame, or a hybrid? Is your rolling chassis still viable?
Have you looked at 2" tube sand rails, dune buggies, and sand racers?




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Here is an interesting construction method.
One method used by a friend of mine who has worked in metal sculpture for 40 years might prove viable in building the Batman v Superman DOJ Batmobile body.
SKIN and BURN is his name for the method but the method has been documented to have been used for more than two-thousand years in art and construction, etc,....
I am currently thinking about using it in my DOJ Batmobile build.
Here is how SKIN and BURN would work on the DOJ body.
Build the body and other pieces in wood, cardboard, or foam.
Cut steel pieces, fit to wood body, and secure with adhesive. Repeat procedure until all translated metal pieces are attached. Then use a MIG welder with a dwell timer set to 1/4 to 1/2 second on high heat. Same welding method is sometimes used by custom exhaust welders. Tactical welding techniques must be used to avoid distortion effects. The wood is then burned out slowly or cut away inside in pieces. I probably would cut away the wood so I could weld inside as I cut away the wood pieces.
Cut steel pieces, fit to foam body, and secure with adhesive. Repeat procedure until all translated metal pieces are attached. Then use a MIG welder with a dwell timer set to 1/4 to 1/2 second on high heat. Same welding method is sometimes used by custom exhaust welders. Tactical welding techniques must be used to avoid distortion effects. The foam is then dissolved with solvent, but could be burned out slowly or cut away inside in pieces. I probably would use solvent.
If a 3D routed 1:1 foam Batmobile didn't cost 12,500.00 I could embrace the foam method. vertigo
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Posted 3/26/2017 9:50:58 AM


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So, does this mean a donor vehicle, from scratch frame, or a hybrid?
Options are still open. I'm leaning toward the scratch built chassis. Yes. I have studied sand rails, etc. Which is basically what they did for the frame on the original. It's really a Baja car chassis. One big thing I still want to do is place some proxy wheels on it. I think that will give me a much better idea of how to fit it on a donor frame and how big that frame will need to be.

I actually had somebody that wanted to buy that roller so I sold it to him. That's OK because I think it would be better to have bought a whole vehicle for the donor. You get a lot of parts that way that you would otherwise have to track down.

Here is an interesting construction method.
That is interesting, and something I hadn't thought about.

One cool thing about building it in metal is I think it would be cool and fun to be able to actually energize the body! I think it would be easy to do with a unit like what is used to do a electrical fence to keep cows in. It would give a mild shock but nothing dangerous. Imagine that at a car show. hehehehe
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Posted 3/28/2017 4:59:28 PM


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Progress report:

Did some good work on the car today but nothing you could actually notice that much in pictures.

I raised the body of the car to the correct heights that match the front and rear boxes. Originally I had used some educated guess work to set the height of the car. That turned out to be a couple of inches short in the front and six inches short in the rear. Had to separate the frame from the body, build a support structure, then reattach everything. Now I'm ready to work on attaching the rear boxes.

Also did some work on securing the height of the front section because my next step will be to mock up the front of the car, to include front air intakes, front turret support structure (but not the turret and guns themselves), front air splitter assembly, defensive weapons array (which I have already started working on), front suspension, and proxy wheels.

Discovered one problem that will need to be addressed. When I installed the top section of the jet air intakes I fastened them to an angle cut support. The drivers side was done correctly but I fastened the support on the passenger side so that the angle cut faced the wrong way. I kept asking myself why that side looked a little lower than the other side. Dumb mistake. Will need to remove the passenger side jet air intake and redo it.
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Posted 3/29/2017 4:30:59 PM


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Got the drivers side rear box installed today. Need to do the above repairs before I can do the Passenger side box.

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Absolutely AWESOME!

The Needles Dance, The Gauges Glow.
Engine Speed & Heartbeat Grow.
Gears They Shift 'Neath Anxious Thumbs,
SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES...
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Posted 3/29/2017 6:23:10 PM
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I agree. Your DOJ Batmobile is really taking shape.
Some proxy tires will make it live in the mind of the viewer. vertigo
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