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Posted 3/18/2017 6:50:29 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here because someone may be able to benefit from the demonstrated proxy tire technique used to figure tire clearances, tire backsets, turning ranges, and overall fit.

Used proxy tire method to determine my Tumbler's tire clearances, tire backsets, turning ranges, and overall fit.  vertigo

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Posted 3/19/2017 8:43:21 AM


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Thanks vert. I will probably be using your proxy tire technique on my mock-up.
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Posted 3/23/2017 7:50:36 PM
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I placed a copy of this post here because it may be of some use to
someone doing a Bat Vehicle build or planning to do a Bat Vehicle
build.

Based on my collective research and study, so far, of the Batman v
Superman Batmobile it appears the easiest way to build this Bat
Vehicle with the least amounts of man hours and expense is to build
the body first completely in wood.

An alternative to building the body in wood is to use one of the 3D
available programs to have the vehicle routed life-size in foam. This
would be a great way to go but the lowest price I found to have this
done is 12,500.00 delivered to my door.

The next step is to find a donor vehicle, with the title, could be a
car but most likely a truck, conforming closely to logical body
attachment points.

After acquiring a suitable donor vehicle, one would probably fabricate
a frame around the donor vehicle that matches the bottom edges of the
wood body and weld in additional braces as needed.

Once the wood body fits on the donor vehicle frame then the builder
will have two choices. Remove the wood body, build a frame on the
lower frame, attach the body panels that have been translated into
steel or other materials, and join together. The second choice is to
remove the wood body and translate it into steel or other materials
with the end result being a bolt on body, probably with a few modules,
that can be taken, on or off, at will.

Completing these steps should get you to approximately 80% completion.
   vertigo
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Posted 2 days ago @ 7:54:37 PM
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Placed a copy of this post here because axle, wheel, tire, and suspension fitting with a proxy tire may be relevant to another Bat Vehicle builder.
Spent a couple of hours today working with proxy tire to calculate the exact axle length needed.
Re-adjusted the proxy tire's wheel mounting center to be the exact same dimensions as the custom wheel rims I have on order. After remounting the re-adjusted proxy tire I discovered that I need to shorten the Tumbler arm axle length by 2-inches, maybe a little more. Will cut 2-inches off the axle, set everything up again, and check the fit again. One good thing about fitting the Tumbler arm axles is their symmetrical aspects. Get one side right and the other side just needs a transfer of measurements.


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I put a copy of this post here because it may prove useful to a Bat Vehicle planner or builder.
One method used by a friend of mine who has worked in metal sculpture for 40 years might prove viable in building the Batman v Superman DOJ Batmobile body.
SKIN and BURN is his name for the method but the method has been documented to have been used for more than two-thousand years in art and construction, etc,....
I am currently thinking about using it in my DOJ Batmobile build.
Here is how SKIN and BURN would work on the DOJ body.
Build the body and other pieces in wood, cardboard, or foam.
Cut steel pieces, fit to wood body, and secure with adhesive. Repeat procedure until all translated metal pieces are attached. Then use a MIG welder with a dwell timer set to 1/4 to 1/2 second on high heat. Same welding method is sometimes used by custom exhaust welders. Tactical welding techniques must be used to avoid distortion effects. The wood is then burned out slowly or cut away inside in pieces. I probably would cut away the wood so I could weld inside as I cut away the wood pieces.
Cut steel pieces, fit to foam body, and secure with adhesive. Repeat procedure until all translated metal pieces are attached. Then use a MIG welder with a dwell timer set to 1/4 to 1/2 second on high heat. Same welding method is sometimes used by custom exhaust welders. Tactical welding techniques must be used to avoid distortion effects. The foam is then dissolved with solvent, but could be burned out slowly or cut away inside in pieces. I probably would use solvent.
If a 3D routed 1:1 foam Batmobile didn't cost 12,500.00 I could embrace the foam method. vertigo
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